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From: Lars Brinkhoff <lars@nocrew.org>
To: Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com>
Cc: TUHS main list <tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>, Michael Siegel <msi@malbolge.net>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] Fwd: Origins and life of the pg pager
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2020 19:08:31 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7wh7vcm9jk.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7wr1ugmix8.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> (Lars Brinkhoff's message of "Mon, 15 Jun 2020 15:45:55 +0000")

> Clem Cole wrote:
>> I think Eric arrived later than Dan (maybe a year later), but was also
>> ex-MIT, and he too had used/seen --MORE-- on ITS as Dan had. But I was
>> under the impression Eric started over.
> That's not what Dan writes (see below), but I'll ask him to confirm his
> version.

He responded and asked me to post his reply to the mailing list:

   As described in https://danhalbert.org/more.html, I wrote the
   original version of more. It was only a page or two or code, and was
   meant to replace the dysfunctional cr3. It went into raw mode so it
   could read a space as a "next page" character, but otherwise didn't
   care about what kind of terminal it was on. (The ADM-3's (not 3A's)
   were barely a terminal.)

   Clem Cole's timeline is a bit off. Eric Shienbrood, Geoff Peck, and I
   all arrived at Berkeley at the same time in fall 1978 as CS grad
   students, and became friends (along with some other folks).

   After I wrote the first version, I did not have time to continue to
   working on it, so Eric picked it up and added many more features. My
   contribution is that I had the original idea (to replace cr3) and
   coined the name, and made the very first version. I am grateful to
   Eric, Geoff, and others taking it much further with many more
   features.

   I am still in touch with Eric, and will ask him to see what he has to
   say. We are both still alive so I appreciate Lars getting in touch
   with me to verify.

   I also wrote a hack less as a joke, which was more except that it
   scrolled up the screen rather than down . I think it was Bill Joy who
   then wrote another less that paged from the end of the file (and also
   scrolled up the screen).

  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-15 19:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-14 22:52 Warren Toomey
2020-06-14 23:37 ` Mary Ann Horton
2020-06-14 23:52   ` [TUHS] " David Barto
2020-06-15  0:06     ` George Michaelson
2020-06-15  0:31     ` Alan D. Salewski
2020-06-15  0:35       ` Alan D. Salewski
2020-06-15  1:38         ` Warner Losh
2020-06-15  1:47           ` Larry McVoy
2020-06-15  2:38             ` Alec Muffett
2020-06-15  2:46               ` Alec Muffett
2020-06-15  2:26           ` Charles H. Sauer
2020-06-15 14:03           ` Mary Ann Horton
2020-06-15 20:19             ` Greg A. Woods
2020-06-15 20:50               ` Mary Ann Horton
2020-06-15  0:32   ` [TUHS] Fwd: " Nemo Nusquam
2020-06-15  5:41   ` Lars Brinkhoff
2020-06-15 13:56     ` Clem Cole
2020-06-15 14:15       ` Mary Ann Horton
2020-06-15 14:56         ` Clem Cole
2020-06-15 15:04           ` Richard Salz
2020-06-15 16:14             ` Clem Cole
2020-06-15 15:45           ` Lars Brinkhoff
2020-06-15 19:08             ` Lars Brinkhoff [this message]
2020-06-21 18:49           ` Michael Siegel
2020-06-22  0:35             ` Greg A. Woods
2020-06-22 16:24               ` Derek Fawcus
2020-06-22 21:33                 ` Rob Pike
2020-06-22 21:58                   ` Kurt H Maier
2020-06-22 21:59                   ` [TUHS] " Bakul Shah
2020-06-22 22:43                     ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2020-06-25  1:50                       ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2020-06-25 21:31                         ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2020-07-05  1:34                         ` Dave Horsfall
2020-06-18 12:49 ` [TUHS] Fwd: " Michael Siegel
2020-06-21 22:40 Noel Chiappa

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