From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id e93cf64e for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2018 07:50:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 7CD5DA2720; Sat, 17 Nov 2018 17:50:46 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A5BBA26DC; Sat, 17 Nov 2018 17:50:22 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 39418A26DC; Sat, 17 Nov 2018 17:50:19 +1000 (AEST) Received: from junk.nocrew.org (junk.nocrew.org [51.15.56.219]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C0B7193FC6 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2018 17:50:18 +1000 (AEST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=junk.nocrew.org) by junk.nocrew.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gNvMu-0001mD-IJ; Sat, 17 Nov 2018 07:50:16 +0000 From: Lars Brinkhoff To: Jon Steinhart Organization: nocrew References: <201811160003.wAG03mlF139232@tahoe.cs.Dartmouth.EDU> <20181116045016.GK3341@mcvoy.com> <7a632484-cdc7-7c59-7077-7a2c752045da@spamtrap.tnetconsulting.net> <4c36b2b2-76df-435f-27bc-e1feb0647f36@case.edu> <201811162113.wAGLDGiQ031455@darkstar.fourwinds.com> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 07:50:16 +0000 In-Reply-To: <201811162113.wAGLDGiQ031455@darkstar.fourwinds.com> (Jon Steinhart's message of "Fri, 16 Nov 2018 13:13:16 -0800") Message-ID: <7wpnv49m87.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [TUHS] man-page style X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Jon Steinhart wrote: > Emacs sort of violates my UNIX-sense as it does many things instead of > doing one thing well. It probably should! Emacs is very much divorced from the Unix philosopy. However, it's perfectly in synch with how things are done in ITS. I'd like to argue that if you use Emacs, you're actually using a piece of ITS. Clem Cole: > Exactly -- the idea is emacs is its own 'system' and you need to view > the world through it. Yes, much like a Lisp machine. Stallman worked on ITS and Lisp machines before developing GNU Emacs (from Gosling's version), and it clearly shows. I happen to like ITS and Lisp, so Emacs is a perfect fit for me.