From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: lars at nocrew.org (Lars Brinkhoff) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2020 19:02:22 +0000 Subject: [TUHS] Seeking wisdom from Unix Greybeards In-Reply-To: <7DBB40AE-259D-494E-8ABF-2FE4D47F4052@iitbombay.org> (Bakul Shah's message of "Thu, 26 Nov 2020 10:50:23 -0800") References: <20201126183746.DD93218C087@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> <7DBB40AE-259D-494E-8ABF-2FE4D47F4052@iitbombay.org> Message-ID: <7wr1ogdjr5.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> Noel Chiappa wrote: > If the latter, there's the terminal-independent support of video > terminals in ITS; that dates to the mid-1970's (i.e. circa V5 or > so). User programs output device-independent display control codes (I > have this memory that they were called P-Codes, but that could be my > memory failing), and the OS translated them to the appropriate > screen-control characters. That's correct. Or ^P-codes, from the character that signalled a control code. It would be interesting to figure out when they were introduced. They were not present in 1972; at this point ITS only supported printing terminals, Datapoints, and Imlacs. WAITS allegedly had an even better abstration of terminal control codes. > One additional hack was that the number of terminal types supported in > the OS was limited; there was however a protocol called SUPDUP which > sent (basically) those device-independent codes over a remote login Basically, but another set of equivalent codes internal to ITS. SUPDUP means super-duper image mode, which alludes to image mode. > (originally over NCP) frm the server machine to the client. The User > SUPDUP client supported a lot more terminal types; so people with > odd-ball terminals used to log in, SUPDUP _back_ to their machine, and > away they went. See also CRTSTY.