From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 2737 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2022 06:43:23 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 4 Nov 2022 06:43:23 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FB0C41DC1; Fri, 4 Nov 2022 16:43:16 +1000 (AEST) Received: from junk.nocrew.org (junk.nocrew.org [51.15.56.219]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9385C4012E for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2022 16:43:11 +1000 (AEST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=junk.nocrew.org) by junk.nocrew.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oqqQ1-0008HK-BF; Fri, 04 Nov 2022 06:43:09 +0000 From: Lars Brinkhoff To: Clem Cole In-Reply-To: (Clem Cole's message of "Thu, 3 Nov 2022 17:34:59 -0400") Organization: nocrew References: <7b249e68-de74-2c81-32b0-18ecb74a85ec@aueb.gr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2022 06:43:09 +0000 Message-ID: <7wv8nv1apu.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: lars@nocrew.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on junk.nocrew.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Message-ID-Hash: GJJGR5ENVZTR3ZWPNOKRAXFP3R365IDM X-Message-ID-Hash: GJJGR5ENVZTR3ZWPNOKRAXFP3R365IDM X-MailFrom: lars@nocrew.org X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: TUHS main list X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: vi in cooked mode? List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Clem Cole wrote: > probably the next was Zimmerman (a.k.a. CCA) EMACS, then GNU hacked > Gosling's version (that strange trip has been discussed elsewhere and > I'll not add it here). Zimmer's version was 'truer' to the original > MIT/PDP-10 version from ITS than Gosling but Steve had built it when > he worked for CCA so it was licensed (which we had a Masscomp and made > available to our customers). I recently found a copy of CCA Emacs. It's from 1983 and does not yet have the Elisp extension language. CCA was bought by Rocket Software, so they own it now. I asked permission to put it online, but unfortunately they said no. Ron Natalie wrote: > We used Montgomery=E2=80=99s EMACS and then JOVE on the PDP-11 UNIXes. Montgomery kindly agreed to putting a copy of his editor here, and wrote about its history: https://github.com/larsbrinkhoff/emacs-history/tree/sources/ana-3.lcs.mit.e= du/%7Ejnc/tech/unix/emacs https://github.com/larsbrinkhoff/emacs-history/blob/sources/docs/Montgomery= %20Emacs%20History.txt