From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 4f2a7f2d for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2019 07:41:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 774149B5F7; Fri, 18 Oct 2019 17:41:06 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 590AD9B555; Fri, 18 Oct 2019 17:40:41 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id A7F7B9B555; Fri, 18 Oct 2019 17:40:38 +1000 (AEST) Received: from junk.nocrew.org (junk.nocrew.org [51.15.56.219]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4625B9B553 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2019 17:40:38 +1000 (AEST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=junk.nocrew.org) by junk.nocrew.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iLMsG-0007Q5-K3 for tuhs@tuhs.org; Fri, 18 Oct 2019 07:40:36 +0000 From: Lars Brinkhoff To: tuhs@tuhs.org Organization: nocrew References: <20191017122105.0c8b07bf@asrock> <20191017204438.GA1224@minnie.tuhs.org> Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2019 07:40:36 +0000 In-Reply-To: <20191017204438.GA1224@minnie.tuhs.org> (Warren Toomey's message of "Fri, 18 Oct 2019 06:44:38 +1000") Message-ID: <7wwod2o617.fsf_-_@junk.nocrew.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [TUHS] File system salvager, "salv" X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Warren Toomey wrote: > 11-56-91.pdf user-mode programs: pd, psych, rm, rn, roff, salv, sh My attention is drawn to "salv". Clem Cole wrote in 2016: > The original FS tools for UNIX icheck/dcheck/ncheck were very crude. > TSS and MTS (used a similar/same FS format) and and had a similar > program in the key of fsck that Ted was familiar (as did a number of > DEC systems for that matter). Ted wrote the original version of > premordial fsck for v6 at UMich (maybe v5 - Joy probably would know > what the version of UNIX was there then). Ted took "pre-fsck" to Bell > Lab the summer between Mich and CMU. [...] https://minnie.tuhs.org/Archive/Documentation/TUHS/Mail_list/2016-April.txt There are these V2 and V3 man pages. https://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Distributions/Research/Dennis_v2/v2man.pdf https://www.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=V3/man/man8/salv.8 I see a V3 man page for dcheck, but nothing for icheck until V6. So it appears before fsck, and before icheck etc, there was salv, the file system salvager tool. Some quick searching reveals that CTSS, Multics, and ITS all also used the term salv and/or salvager for the corresponding program, so there's ample precedent.