[TUHS] UniPress Emacs V2.20 from 1989

[TUHS] UniPress Emacs V2.20 from 1989

[Lars Brinkhoff]

The floppy label says it's for AIX, but the source code hits it runs on
Sun, IRIS, Apollo, HP, X10, X11, Amiga, Mac, MS-DOS, Xenix.

https://github.com/larsbrinkhoff/emacs-history/tree/sources/Hans%20H%C3%BCbner

[TUHS] Re: UniPress Emacs V2.20 from 1989

[Henry Bent]

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On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 at 23:35, Lars Brinkhoff <lars@nocrew.org> wrote:

> The floppy label says it's for AIX, but the source code hits it runs on
> Sun, IRIS, Apollo, HP, X10, X11, Amiga, Mac, MS-DOS, Xenix.
>
>
> https://github.com/larsbrinkhoff/emacs-history/tree/sources/Hans%20H%C3%BCbner


Neat!  This built very cleanly on IRIX 4 (what I had up at the moment); I
imagine that it will work with minimal effort on any commercial UNIX from
the appropriate (~1989) timeframe.

-Henry

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[TUHS] Re: UniPress Emacs V2.20 from 1989

[Jeff Johnson]

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I got it mostly compiled on a modern Linux system with a bit of hacking, but got stuck at curses incompatibilities due to some defintions and it was more work than I was planning on.   I might have time to take another look at it this weekend, though.

What would be more worthwhile would be building the VMS, MS-DOS, etc. versions that were officially supported.

--
Jeffrey H. Johnson
trnsz@pobox.com

On Fri, Apr 18, 2025, at 1:36 AM, Henry Bent wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 at 23:35, Lars Brinkhoff <lars@nocrew.org> wrote:
>> The floppy label says it's for AIX, but the source code hits it runs on
>> Sun, IRIS, Apollo, HP, X10, X11, Amiga, Mac, MS-DOS, Xenix.
>> 
>> https://github.com/larsbrinkhoff/emacs-history/tree/sources/Hans%20H%C3%BCbner
> 
> Neat!  This built very cleanly on IRIX 4 (what I had up at the moment); I imagine that it will work with minimal effort on any commercial UNIX from the appropriate (~1989) timeframe.
> 
> -Henry

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[TUHS] Re: UniPress Emacs V2.20 from 1989

[Blake McBride]

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Greetings,

I worked on the MS-DOS version many years ago.  I'd really love to see this
on modern Linux!!

Thanks!!

Blake McBride


On Fri, Apr 18, 2025 at 1:44 PM Jeff Johnson <trnsz@pobox.com> wrote:

> I got it mostly compiled on a modern Linux system with a bit of hacking,
> but got stuck at curses incompatibilities due to some defintions and it was
> more work than I was planning on.   I might have time to take another look
> at it this weekend, though.
>
> What would be more worthwhile would be building the VMS, MS-DOS, etc.
> versions that were officially supported.
>
> --
> Jeffrey H. Johnson
> trnsz@pobox.com
>
> On Fri, Apr 18, 2025, at 1:36 AM, Henry Bent wrote:
>
> On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 at 23:35, Lars Brinkhoff <lars@nocrew.org> wrote:
>
> The floppy label says it's for AIX, but the source code hits it runs on
> Sun, IRIS, Apollo, HP, X10, X11, Amiga, Mac, MS-DOS, Xenix.
>
>
> https://github.com/larsbrinkhoff/emacs-history/tree/sources/Hans%20H%C3%BCbner
>
>
> Neat!  This built very cleanly on IRIX 4 (what I had up at the moment); I
> imagine that it will work with minimal effort on any commercial UNIX from
> the appropriate (~1989) timeframe.
>
> -Henry
>
>
>

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[TUHS] Re: UniPress Emacs V2.20 from 1989

[Ron Natalie]

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I might be inclined to take a stab.   Gosmacs was my editor of choice 
for years.   I even worked for Unipress for a few months.



------ Original Message ------
From "Blake McBride" <blake1024@gmail.com>
To "Jeff Johnson" <trnsz@pobox.com>
Cc "TUHS" <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Date 4/18/2025 8:19:28 PM
Subject [TUHS] Re: UniPress Emacs V2.20 from 1989

>Greetings,
>
>I worked on the MS-DOS version many years ago.  I'd really love to see 
>this on modern Linux!!
>
>Thanks!!
>
>Blake McBride
>
>
>On Fri, Apr 18, 2025 at 1:44 PM Jeff Johnson <trnsz@pobox.com> wrote:
>>I got it mostly compiled on a modern Linux system with a bit of 
>>hacking, but got stuck at curses incompatibilities due to some 
>>defintions and it was more work than I was planning on.   I might have 
>>time to take another look at it this weekend, though.
>>
>>What would be more worthwhile would be building the VMS, MS-DOS, etc. 
>>versions that were officially supported.
>>
>>--
>>Jeffrey H. Johnson
>>trnsz@pobox.com
>>
>>On Fri, Apr 18, 2025, at 1:36 AM, Henry Bent wrote:
>>>On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 at 23:35, Lars Brinkhoff <lars@nocrew.org> wrote:
>>>>The floppy label says it's for AIX, but the source code hits it runs 
>>>>on
>>>>Sun, IRIS, Apollo, HP, X10, X11, Amiga, Mac, MS-DOS, Xenix.
>>>>
>>>>https://github.com/larsbrinkhoff/emacs-history/tree/sources/Hans%20H%C3%BCbner
>>>
>>>Neat!  This built very cleanly on IRIX 4 (what I had up at the 
>>>moment); I imagine that it will work with minimal effort on any 
>>>commercial UNIX from the appropriate (~1989) timeframe.
>>>
>>>-Henry
>>

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[TUHS] Re: UniPress Emacs V2.20 from 1989

[William H. Mitchell]

I started using Gosling’s Emacs around 1981-1982.  "make" in Emacs was a game changer!

I recall that in the Emacs documentation Gosling wrote something like, "The only similarity between MockLisp and Lisp is the syntax."  I didn’t get it--MockLisp sure seemed like Lisp to me! Years later I did get it and viewed that as a measure of my coming along as a computer scientist.

A couple of years later I did a project where I dropped in the Icon programming language as a peer of MLisp (UniPress’s name for MockLisp, I believe.)  See https://www2.cs.arizona.edu/~whm/An_Icon_Subsystem_for_UNIX_Emacs_tr84_8.pdf

[TUHS] Re: UniPress Emacs V2.20 from 1989

[Lars Brinkhoff]

Mark Seiden writes:
> the display updating code, as i recall, had a skull and crossbones on it
> i remember there was a bit of a kerfuffle when richard stallman introduced
> that code into gnu emacs

This is true.  Gosling Emacs from 1984 and GNU Emacs 13 from 1985 both
have the skull and crossbones comment.

[TUHS] Re: UniPress Emacs V2.20 from 1989

[Marc Donner]

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Yeah, the screen redraw stuff was tense.  As I recall, the best way to see
that was on a mid-speed line, say 9600 baud.  Slower and you could see it
but it was still just annoying.  A lot faster and there was no visible
magic.  At 9600 you could see the screen optimization doing some startling
stuff.
=====
nygeek.net
mindthegapdialogs.com/home <https://www.mindthegapdialogs.com/home>


On Mon, Apr 21, 2025 at 11:41 AM Lars Brinkhoff <lars@nocrew.org> wrote:

> Mark Seiden writes:
> > the display updating code, as i recall, had a skull and crossbones on it
> > i remember there was a bit of a kerfuffle when richard stallman
> introduced
> > that code into gnu emacs
>
> This is true.  Gosling Emacs from 1984 and GNU Emacs 13 from 1985 both
> have the skull and crossbones comment.
>

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