From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.2 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, NICE_REPLY_A autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 12894 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2022 18:42:08 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 12 Jan 2022 18:42:08 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 2A1149D043; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 04:42:05 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 339FF9CFCA; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 04:41:50 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 6EAD19CFCA; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 04:41:47 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 420 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at minnie.tuhs.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 04:41:46 AEST Received: from smtp125.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (smtp125.iad3a.emailsrvr.com [173.203.187.125]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B04D89C78F for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 04:41:46 +1000 (AEST) X-Auth-ID: halbert@halwitz.org Received: by smtp16.relay.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: halbert-AT-halwitz.org) with ESMTPSA id 1A35E58CC for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 13:34:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <8075a67e-7cf6-cf0c-b1e7-9c2b473b2892@halwitz.org> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 13:34:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.5.0 Content-Language: en-US To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org References: <20220101031511.GB8135@mcvoy.com> <20220111015901.GE25103@eureka.lemis.com> <4409b91cd794867d@orthanc.ca> <20220111024218.GE3441@mcvoy.com> <202201120854.20C8sDRR014233@freefriends.org> <20220112180619.mxzojchd62vpwm2f@localhost.localdomain> From: Dan Halbert In-Reply-To: <20220112180619.mxzojchd62vpwm2f@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Classification-ID: bee8ea39-2eb0-4891-a61f-c4553aa9d0b7-1-1 Subject: Re: [TUHS] *roff history as told to GNU X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On 1/12/22 13:06, G. Branden Robinson wrote: > Hi, Dan, > > At 2022-01-12T11:33:35-0500, Dan Cross wrote: >> I have some questions about the earlier history. >> >> I've been collecting a detailed narrative history not just of the *roff >> _programs_ but also of the development on the language in the roff(7) >> manual page. Below I'll share a current chunk of it that is planned for >> the next release (groff 1.23). It has been heavily revised since >> groff 1.22.4. Many of my revisions have been motivated by accounts from >> this list, from the "history of man pages" (more of a history of troff) >> at manpages.bsd.lv, and the minnie TUHS archive. I used RUNOFF on TOPS-10 in 1971, I think, and eventually also on TENEX and TOPS-20. It probably was available earlier than that. Your history is covering the Unix side, but there is also a pretty robust DEC side. It was available on pretty much all the DEC machines. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TYPSET_and_RUNOFF has some mentions. Dan H.