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Lu Bootable Root & Base System disks X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --_8C27DF60-C824-445A-9B45-C94418A54FB3_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Luckily in the rush to 0.99 the CD-ROM shovelware thing was in full swing s= o lots of stuff got archived. It=E2=80=99s the older stuff that was always purged like COFF patches, or O= MF patches for older stuff, or even missing stuff from the big projects lik= e Emacs or GCC, and huge missing gaps in other GNU projects of all things. GCC 0.90-1.21 everything in between these two is missing. Is it so bad? We= ll it=E2=80=99s the start of adding 3rd parties code and G++ stuff as well.= Also lots of gaps in libraries. Things like the core utils, and other user-land stuff is missing and what l= ittle I have was snapshotted on DECUS archives. Much like how binutils and Linux has/is removing a.out the old legacy stuff= is being swept out. Much as everyone else seems to try to kill 32bit stuf= f which makes running ancient GCC on modern platforms a bit more challengin= g as I=E2=80=99ll have to do it under emulation. If I had the time/knowled= ge a 64bit hosted copy of GCC 1.42 would be cool but I think I may be the o= nly one interested in compiling old Linux/BSD stuff with the original tools= on newer (and alien) platforms. From: Sean Dwyer via TUHS Sent: Friday, 21 May 2021 6:17 pm To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org Subject: Re: [TUHS] H.J. Lu Bootable Root & Base System disks On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 09:33:46AM +0800, Jason Stevens wrote: > Is it okay for me to ask a question about Linux that's from '91~'92? >=20 > Does anyone happen to have copies of H.J. Lu's Bootable Root and the=20 > associated Linux Base System disk images from the early '90s? >=20 > I've managed to find a copy of 0.98.pl5-31 bootable root disk. But I=20 > can't find any base disks to go along with it. >=20 > The files used to be on tsx-11.mit.edu:/pub/linux/GCC in rootdisk and=20 > basedisk subdirectories. >=20 > Unfortunately all of the mirrors I'm finding of tsx-11 are newer, have=20 > the basedisk directories, but no image files there in. >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Grant. . . . > unix || die >=20 I do have the boot/roots for kernel 0.99 pl 7 from my Yggdrasil disks of July/August 1995 which I believe are also on archive.org. I used to have di= sks from 1994 but they've been lost in time and I only have stuff from 94-97 no= w, some of which are on archive.org already. Hope that helps. --=20 I love deadlines. I love the whooshing noise as they fly by. --_8C27DF60-C824-445A-9B45-C94418A54FB3_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"

Lucki= ly in the rush to 0.99 the CD-ROM shovelware thing was in full swing so lot= s of stuff got archived.

 

It=E2=80=99s the older stuff that was always purged like CO= FF patches, or OMF patches for older stuff, or even missing stuff from the = big projects like Emacs or GCC, and huge missing gaps in other GNU projects= of all things.

 

GCC 0.90-1.21 everything in between these two is missing.=C2=A0 Is i= t so bad? Well it=E2=80=99s the start of adding 3rd parties code= and G++ stuff as well.=C2=A0 Also lots of gaps in libraries.

Things like the core utils, and other user-land stuff is missi= ng and what little I have was snapshotted on DECUS archives.

 

Much like how binutils = and Linux has/is removing a.out the old legacy stuff is being swept out.=C2= =A0 Much as everyone else seems to try to kill 32bit stuff which makes runn= ing ancient GCC on modern platforms a bit more challenging as I=E2=80=99ll = have to do it under emulation.=C2=A0 If I had the time/knowledge a 64bit ho= sted copy of GCC 1.42 would be cool but I think I may be the only one inter= ested in compiling old Linux/BSD stuff with the original tools on newer (an= d alien) platforms.

 

From: Sean Dwyer via = TUHS
Sent: Friday, 21 May 2021 6:17 pm
To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org
Subject: Re: [TUHS] H.J. Lu Bootable Root & Base System disks

 

On Tue, May 18, 202= 1 at 09:33:46AM +0800, Jason Stevens wrote:

> Is= it okay for me to ask a question about Linux that's from '91~'92?

>

> Does anyone happen to ha= ve copies of H.J. Lu's Bootable Root and the

> = associated Linux Base System disk images from the early '90s?

>

> I've managed to find a copy= of 0.98.pl5-31 bootable root disk.=C2=A0 But I

&g= t; can't find any base disks to go along with it.

&= gt;

> The files used to be on tsx-11.mit.edu:/p= ub/linux/GCC in rootdisk and

> basedisk subdire= ctories.

>

> Unfortu= nately all of the mirrors I'm finding of tsx-11 are newer, have

> the basedisk directories, but no image files there in.

>

>

>

> --

>= Grant. . . .

> unix || die

>

 

I do have the boot/roots for kernel 0.99 pl 7 from my Yggdrasil disks of

July/August 1995 which I believe are also on archive= .org. I used to have disks

from 1994 but they've be= en lost in time and I only have stuff from 94-97 now,

some of which are on archive.org already. Hope that helps.

 

 

--

I love deadlines. I love = the whooshing noise as they fly by.

 

= --_8C27DF60-C824-445A-9B45-C94418A54FB3_--