From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: dscherrer@solar.stanford.edu (Deborah Scherrer) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2017 19:46:21 -0800 Subject: [TUHS] ARPAnet now 4 nodes In-Reply-To: <20171205034349.1D3F518C087@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> References: <20171205034349.1D3F518C087@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <8254fc85-12e6-4730-8f14-faf060ad6a70@solar.stanford.edu> Yes, Van Jacobson was involved. Great guy. So sorry you feel the need to think I am lying. Why would I make up this stuff? I was a teeny tiny piece of it. Doesn't affect my career one way or other. I don't care what you believe, but this really did happen. D On 12/4/17 7:43 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > From: Deborah Scherrer > > > I don't know about the historical record. But everything I said is true, > > based on my own personal experience. ... I was there, this happened. If > > people didn't write it down, I don't know why. > > FWIW, I was actually at many of those meetings. (You can find my name in a lot > of those Meeting Notes.) Nobody from LBL, or UCB in general, was involved - > and the Meeting Notes (which, you will note, are quite detailed) indicate the > same thing. > > (Later on, of course, Van Jacobson of LBL did some imporant work on TCP > congestion control, but that was in '87 or so - I can't instantly lay my hands > on my copy of Van's famous e-mail, to get a more exact date - some years after > the full-scale deployment of TCP/IP in January, 1983.) > > > Why would I misrepresent? > > Perhaps you are conflating several different things in your memory? Human > memory is very fallible, which is why historians prefer contemporary documents > (and even those sometimes have errors). Here: > > http://www.chiappa.net/~jnc/nontech/tmlotus.html > > is a mildly amusing example (from a completely different arena) of all that. > > Noel