From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 24574 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2023 22:48:14 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 2 Feb 2023 22:48:14 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F25384122D; Fri, 3 Feb 2023 08:48:08 +1000 (AEST) Received: from zimbra.anteil.com (zimbra.anteil.com [67.110.179.138]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 332304122B for ; Fri, 3 Feb 2023 08:48:04 +1000 (AEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.anteil.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82131100AA; Thu, 2 Feb 2023 17:48:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from zimbra.anteil.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.anteil.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rW3o3bs6tLBt; Thu, 2 Feb 2023 17:48:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtpclient.apple (pool-98-111-115-191.hrbgpa.fios.verizon.net [98.111.115.191]) by zimbra.anteil.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 909D410077; Thu, 2 Feb 2023 17:48:01 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Jim Capp Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2023 17:47:50 -0500 Message-Id: <82A9B97D-9ED2-4DFF-A1DE-765437ACCE9B@anteil.com> References: <20230202224136.GI30555@mcvoy.com> In-Reply-To: <20230202224136.GI30555@mcvoy.com> To: Larry McVoy X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (20C65) Message-ID-Hash: QSXI6FRUYNBQBEQKGLSETRYPR6RGC6TA X-Message-ID-Hash: QSXI6FRUYNBQBEQKGLSETRYPR6RGC6TA X-MailFrom: jcapp@anteil.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: Noel Chiappa , TUHS X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Proper use of TUHS (was Re: Typesetter C compiler) List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: I love the topics and people on TUHS. =20 But I also subscribed to COFF so I could pick up on interesting scraps not s= uitable for TUHS.=20 > On Feb 2, 2023, at 5:41 PM, Larry McVoy wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BFOn Thu, Feb 02, 2023 at 05:36:44PM -0500, Dan Cross wrote: >>> On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 2:02 PM Noel Chiappa wr= ote: >>> [snip] I don't >>> have the energy to look through the tons of opinion posts about recent >>> programming styles, to find the posts about actual Unix history which re= lated >>> to that compiler, >>> [snip] >>=20 >> On a semi-related note.... >>=20 >> I have found TUHS a valuable resource, not just for discussing Unix >> history, but for gaining a deeper understanding of systems which >> informs my present and that I imagine will influence my future work as >> well. >>=20 >> However, lately it has become clear that this is not always a welcome >> use of the list. I don't think COFF is universally appropriate for >> that either. >=20 > COFF lacks critical mass. It's a common problem, you have a mailing list > with enough people that it is interesting and it gets too noisy so the > admin creates a more chatty list and only a small subset of the people > pick that up. I don't know how to fix that. >=20 >> So, the question becomes: what _is_ that forum, if such a thing exists at= all? >=20 > Well, Hacker News was supposed to be really system-y. I tried it for a wh= ile, > there was some good stuff there but it was drowned out by wannabe hackers > talking about trivial stuff as if it were interesting. So I gave up. >=20 > If you find a Unix/Systems sort of forum, that actually has something to > say, let us know. > --=20 > --- > Larry McVoy Retired to fishing http://www.mcvoy.com/lm/= boat