From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 24508 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2021 20:41:46 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 8 Feb 2021 20:41:46 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id F224C9C8E1; Tue, 9 Feb 2021 06:41:43 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3BC29C0A9; Tue, 9 Feb 2021 06:41:09 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id E25289C0A9; Tue, 9 Feb 2021 06:41:06 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 71132 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at minnie.tuhs.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2021 06:41:06 AEST Received: from mail104.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail104.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.246]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E6979BA51 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2021 06:41:06 +1000 (AEST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (unknown [49.3.28.150]) by mail104.syd.optusnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C18CB8273CD for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2021 07:41:03 +1100 (AEDT) From: Andrew Newman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.7\)) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2021 07:41:02 +1100 References: <5cb7edc8-7d43-aa3a-334f-18e17aa2fa16@gmail.com> <2ffbcab8-b651-c3f9-d4ed-e9ff792cfde6@mhorton.net> <1a7a35b7-4105-20b7-65ed-1eabb663d0ca@mhorton.net> <60205C88.6070808@gmail.com> To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <82B6B693-2C65-4CC6-B165-81AEA4D678E6@optusnet.com.au> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.7) X-Optus-CM-Score: 0 X-Optus-CM-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=Ubgvt5aN c=1 sm=1 tr=0 cx=a_idp_d a=fyGilLtrTRJL4o8OzBn3lQ==:117 a=fyGilLtrTRJL4o8OzBn3lQ==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=RSmzAf-M6YYA:10 a=XTHrwgWuAAAA:8 a=71k_Fyy7AAAA:8 a=7MNaqergs7wlu87TbiEA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Ej9l7Tse3dvoZggkq7hV:22 a=PMIiRho_3FyhjSnxyi0K:22 Subject: Re: [TUHS] Typing tutors X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On 8 Feb 2021, at 4:43 am, Mary Ann Horton wrote: >=20 > I hated it when the PC-AT came along and moved Ctrl down and Esc up! I = depend on Ctrl being to the left of A and Esc left of 1, where God = intended them to be! I used a Sun keyboard with a DIN adapter for years, = until I came to SDG&E in 2007 and discovered a cache of USB Sun = keyboards, half with the UNIX layout (yay!) and half with the PC layout = (boo!) Word got around quickly that I liked them, and I wound up with = several UNIX layout Sun keyboards. For good measure, I bought a 10-pack = on eBay, so I'll have spares until the day they peel my cold dead = fingers away from my UNIX layout keyboard. As a long time emacs user that change drives me nuts but thankfully = re-mapping makes things usable - cap-lock -> ctrl, swap left-alt and Windows-key = (meta). BTW if you like buckling springs Unicomp make a Sun layout keyboard that = looks okay - https://www.pckeyboard.com/page/product/40PSA (larger image at = https://www.pckeyboard.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/Sun%20Keyboard1000x1000_8= 00x800.png ) I=E2=80=99ve been using their IBM layout keyboards for years (mostly on = Macs) and found them reliable and great to type on. But YMMV of course. If I were in the USA = I=E2=80=99d get one of these Sun layout boards in an instant but shipping one to Australia = costs more the keyboard which irks me enough to say no (at least for the time being).