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From: lyndon@orthanc.ca (Lyndon Nerenberg)
Subject: [TUHS] X, Suntools, and the like
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2017 13:44:01 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <836C637F-A0B1-442D-996A-78D538E332B1@orthanc.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <001201d29f5d$5e23dff0$1a6b9fd0$@ronnatalie.com>


> On Mar 17, 2017, at 1:30 PM, Ron Natalie <ron at ronnatalie.com> wrote:
> 
> I'm not sure how you are defining the "desktop
> metaphor" but Apple and Xerox had it long before X.

Yeah, I think we're all using different definitions of "desktop metaphor."

In my view, the early Macs (and Windows) were bitmap overlays on a single user OS.  To me, a "desktop" is a much more virtual abstraction of the user's runtime environment from the underlying OS.  I.e., if you can't have two distinct "users" concurrently running independent GUI environments on the same hardware, it's not a "desktop."  And I realize that's a very fuzzy definition.

Let me ask you this, Ron: how would you classify the Plan 9 terminal environment? :-)

--lyndon



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2017-03-14 18:49 Ron Natalie
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2017-03-15  1:13                             ` Nick Downing
2017-03-15 10:15                               ` Tim Bradshaw
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2017-03-15 11:03                                     ` Nick Downing
2017-03-15 12:03                                       ` tfb
2017-03-15 13:12                                         ` Nick Downing
2017-03-15 14:37                                           ` tfb
2017-03-15 16:40                                           ` Kurt H Maier
2017-03-15 16:52                                             ` Arthur Krewat
2017-03-16 23:04                                             ` Josh Good
2017-03-16 23:29                                               ` Robert Swierczek
2017-03-17  1:15                                                 ` Nick Downing
2017-03-16 23:29                                               ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-03-17  0:05                                                 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-03-17  5:55                                                 ` arnold
2017-03-17 12:56                                                 ` Ron Natalie
2017-03-17 15:19                                                 ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-03-17 20:17                                                   ` Josh Good
2017-03-17 20:30                                                     ` Ron Natalie
2017-03-17 20:44                                                       ` Lyndon Nerenberg [this message]
2017-03-17 21:08                                                         ` Dan Cross
2017-03-17 22:50                                                           ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-03-17 22:58                                                             ` Dan Cross
2017-03-17 23:17                                                               ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-03-17 23:22                                                                 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-03-18 15:45                                                                 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-03-18 16:59                                                                   ` Andy Kosela
2017-03-18 23:05                                                                     ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-03-18 23:32                                                                       ` Nick Downing
2017-03-19  7:20                                                                         ` Jason Stevens
2017-03-17  0:13                                               ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-17  3:16                                                 ` jsteve
2017-03-23 19:16                                                   ` Michael Parson
2017-03-17 12:39                                                 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-03-17 12:45                                                   ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-03-17 16:49                                                   ` Tony Finch
2017-03-18 15:43                                                     ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-03-17 14:39                                                 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-03-17 16:21                                                   ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-17 16:29                                                     ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-03-17 17:42                                                     ` Steve Nickolas
2017-03-17 21:39                                                     ` [TUHS] X->VNC->RDP experience [was " Charles H Sauer
2017-03-19  6:11                                               ` [TUHS] " Robert Brockway
2017-03-19 11:56                                                 ` Josh Good
2017-03-15 20:48                               ` Ron Natalie
2017-03-17 13:05 Noel Chiappa
2017-03-17 15:06 ` Ron Natalie
2017-03-17 15:39 Noel Chiappa
2017-03-17 17:56 ` Ron Natalie

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