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From: John Gilmore <gnu@toad.com>
To: Paul Ruizendaal <pnr@planet.nl>
Cc: TUHS main list <tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] PC Unix
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2021 11:04:29 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <840.1617818669@hop.toad.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2313BFBA-8795-497F-AD46-46CCFC0E6E6C@planet.nl>

Paul Ruizendaal <pnr@planet.nl> wrote:
> Although some sources suggest that going with the 68000 and/or Unix were considered, it would have left the new machine without an instant base of affordable small business applications. Speed to market was a leading paradigm for the PC's design team.

Sun was making 68000-based systems in 1981, before the IBM PC was created.
But they only sold in small volumes, maybe a few thousand systems per year.

What I remember hearing was that IBM asked Motorola if they could make
250,000 68000 chips for the PC's first year.  They said no.  Intel said
yes to making 250,000 8088 chips, so they got the business.

It's great that Intel is finally losing the edge that they once had in
chip fabrication, because it was married to such rotten taste in
computer architecture.  Perhaps over the next 30 years the industry can
finally evolve to less insane designs.  (Even AMD is better than Intel
at architecture; they created a 64-bit x86 that was so reasonable that
Intel ended up adopting it.)

	John

  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-07 18:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-07  8:20 [TUHS] PC Unix Paul Ruizendaal
2021-04-07 18:04 ` John Gilmore [this message]
2021-04-07 22:18   ` Thomas Paulsen
2021-04-07 22:40     ` Larry McVoy
2021-04-07 23:04       ` Jon Steinhart
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2021-04-07  7:52 Paul Ruizendaal via TUHS
2021-04-07 15:57 ` heinz
2021-04-08 22:31 ` Warner Losh

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