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[72.42.171.210]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id 185sm13727464pfd.125.2019.07.14.01.17.34 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 14 Jul 2019 01:17:35 -0700 (PDT) To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org References: From: Michael Huff Message-ID: <84e9babd-f83c-a4b6-382f-4e6780e91dfb@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 00:17:32 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------720FA750DDC517017F774641" Content-Language: en-US Subject: [TUHS] Thanks for Virtuallyfun! (was Re: Happy birthday, 386BSD!) X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------720FA750DDC517017F774641 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Personally, I'm very grateful for the amount of time you've spent not simply finding and posting the things you do (this, cmu mach, the BSD and Unix stuff) but also the blog entries you write that spell out the steps you take to get it all running. As someone who came along much later (slackware 3.5?, freebsd 2.2-something) but has a lot of interest/curiosity about what the older days were like it's very helpful and illuminating. Oh! ...and of course, Happy Birthday 386BSD! Regards, -a Virtuallyfun fan/reader On 7/13/2019 10:53 PM, Jason Stevens wrote: > Getting this to build was such a tremendous effort.  Although last > time I revisited my 386BSD 0.0 work even under emulation it ran too > fast and had issues. > > But it's really a tremendous effort what Bill and Lynne had done, by > pushing out not only a running version of Net/2 but a self hosting > version of Net/2 for the lowly and utterly common and commodity 386. > > Its a shame the BSDSS and later N2SS from CMU (ports of 4.4 / Net/2) > to Mach 3.  But that USL vs BSDi/CSRG lawsuit cut short what should > have the shot heard around the world moment. > > It was shockingly hard to chase down 386BSD  0.0 just as it was to > find NetBSD 0.8 and 0.9 > > Im just sad I was in the dark about BSD at that time, all the Unix > people I knew hid behind their RS/6000s and SUN workstations while me > and all my peers were all all running Linux. > > But there is nothing like the feeling of running make world, or > building a custom kernel when compared to just running a binary set. > > Since 0.1 is more capable, here is a download for Windows users for it > ready to run. > > https://sourceforge.net/projects/bsd42/files/4BSD%20under%20Windows/v0.4/386BSD-0.1.exe/download > > > > On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 1:57 PM +0800, "Dave Horsfall" > > wrote: > > 386BSD was released on this day in 1992, when William and Lynne Jolitz > started the Open Source movement; well, that's what my notes say, and > corrections are welcome (I know that Gilmore likes to take credit for just > about everything). > > -- Dave > --------------720FA750DDC517017F774641 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Hi

Personally, I'm very grateful for the amount of time you've spent not simply finding and posting the things you do (this, cmu mach, the BSD and Unix stuff) but also the blog entries you write that spell out the steps you take to get it all running.

As someone who came along much later (slackware 3.5?, freebsd 2.2-something) but has a lot of interest/curiosity about what the older days were like it's very helpful and illuminating.

Oh! ...and of course, Happy Birthday 386BSD!

Regards,

-a Virtuallyfun fan/reader

On 7/13/2019 10:53 PM, Jason Stevens wrote:
Getting this to build was such a tremendous effort.  Although last time I revisited my 386BSD 0.0 work even under emulation it ran too fast and had issues.

But it's really a tremendous effort what Bill and Lynne had done, by pushing out not only a running version of Net/2 but a self hosting version of Net/2 for the lowly and utterly common and commodity 386.

Its a shame the BSDSS and later N2SS from CMU (ports of 4.4 / Net/2) to Mach 3.  But that USL vs BSDi/CSRG lawsuit cut short what should have the shot heard around the world moment.

It was shockingly hard to chase down 386BSD  0.0 just as it was to find NetBSD 0.8 and 0.9

Im just sad I was in the dark about BSD at that time, all the Unix people I knew hid behind their RS/6000s and SUN workstations while me and all my peers were all all running Linux.

But there is nothing like the feeling of running make world, or building a custom kernel when compared to just running a binary set.

Since 0.1 is more capable, here is a download for Windows users for it ready to run.




On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 1:57 PM +0800, "Dave Horsfall" <dave@horsfall.org> wrote:

386BSD was released on this day in 1992, when William and Lynne Jolitz 
started the Open Source movement; well, that's what my notes say, and 
corrections are welcome (I know that Gilmore likes to take credit for just 
about everything).

-- Dave
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