From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: (qmail 28897 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2020 16:18:37 -0000 Received-SPF: pass (minnie.tuhs.org: domain of minnie.tuhs.org designates 45.79.103.53 as permitted sender) receiver=inbox.vuxu.org; client-ip=45.79.103.53 envelope-from= Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with UTF8ESMTPZ; 4 Apr 2020 16:18:37 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id B5A539C624; Sun, 5 Apr 2020 02:18:29 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F78A9C203; Sun, 5 Apr 2020 02:18:00 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 54DA59C203; Sun, 5 Apr 2020 02:17:57 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 350 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at minnie.tuhs.org; Sun, 05 Apr 2020 02:17:56 AEST Received: from pio-pvt-msa2.bahnhof.se (pio-pvt-msa2.bahnhof.se [79.136.2.41]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B21269C14A for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2020 02:17:56 +1000 (AEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pio-pvt-msa2.bahnhof.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE353402EF for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2020 18:12:03 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at bahnhof.se Received: from pio-pvt-msa2.bahnhof.se ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pio-pvt-msa2.bahnhof.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uclJ51OUv0b8 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2020 18:12:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (unknown [85.24.253.47]) (Authenticated sender: mc592273) by pio-pvt-msa2.bahnhof.se (Postfix) with ESMTPA id EECF43F536 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2020 18:12:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 422492E02D2 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2020 18:12:02 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2020 16:12:01 +0000 From: Michael =?utf-8?B?S2rDtnJsaW5n?= To: tuhs@tuhs.org Message-ID: <854f7b58-9ba0-476f-a7e6-8579f4a8048d@localhost> References: <1jKkMQ-2hN-00@marmaro.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <1jKkMQ-2hN-00@marmaro.de> Subject: Re: [TUHS] First book on Unix for general readership X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On 4 Apr 2020 17:05 +0200, from meillo@marmaro.de (markus schnalke): > found on Wikipedia: > > As well as the Bourne shell, he wrote the adb debugger > and The UNIX System, the second book on the UNIX system, > intended for a general readership. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_R._Bourne > > Thus I now wonder what the first book on Unix, intended for a > general readership was. I would be careful with that claim. First, it appears to lack a citation. (Someone here might be able to help with that.) Second, once you unpack it, the claim itself can be parsed in two ways, yielding quite different meanings. One way of parsing the claim is that Bourne wrote the book _The UNIX System_ which was the second book on the UNIX system. It was also a book which was intended for a general readership, presumably thereby setting it apart from the first book which was not intended for a general readership. The other way of parsing the claim is that he wrote the book _The UNIX System_ which was second in the set of intended-for-a-general-readership books on the UNIX system (as opposed to the set of books on the UNIX system which were intended for other than a general readership, or for _any_ readership, of which there may have been any number prior to this book), thereby setting it apart only from the first book on the UNIX system intended for a general readership. I'm not a good enough UNIX historian to know which meaning is correct. -- Michael Kjörling • https://michael.kjorling.se • michael@kjorling.se “Remember when, on the Internet, nobody cared that you were a dog?”