* Help reviewing PDP-11 model processors
@ 2000-06-15 7:35 lars brinkhoff
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From: lars brinkhoff @ 2000-06-15 7:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted to alt.sys.pdp11 as well.
Time for the second round of assembler source code review.
If the user specifies a PDP-11 model to the assembler (e.g. -m11/45),
this code is used to tell the assembler what processor to assemble for.
Also, in one case (11/34a), the model enables FP-11 floating-point
instructions. Should this be done for 11/34c too? If there are any
other models with otherwise optional features installed, I'd like to
know.
if (strcmp (arg, "03") == 0) /* 11/03 */
return set_cpu_model ("kd11f"); /* KD11-F */
else if (strcmp (arg, "04") == 0) /* 11/04 */
return set_cpu_model ("kd11d"); /* KD11-D */
else if (strcmp (arg, "05") == 0 || /* 11/05 or 11/10 */
strcmp (arg, "10") == 0)
return set_cpu_model ("kd11b"); /* KD11-B */
else if (strcmp (arg, "15") == 0 || /* 11/15 or 11/20 */
strcmp (arg, "20") == 0)
return set_cpu_model ("ka11"); /* KA11 */
else if (strcmp (arg, "21") == 0) /* 11/21 */
return set_cpu_model ("t11"); /* T11 */
else if (strcmp (arg, "24") == 0) /* 11/24 */
return set_cpu_model ("f11"); /* F11 */
else if (strcmp (arg, "34") == 0) /* 11/34 */
return set_cpu_model ("kd11e"); /* KD11-E */
else if (strcmp (arg, "34a") == 0) /* 11/34a */
return set_cpu_model ("kd11e") && /* KD11-E with FP-11 */
set_option ("fpp");
else if (strcmp (arg, "35") == 0 || /* 11/35 or 11/40 */
strcmp (arg, "40") == 0)
return set_cpu_model ("kd11da"); /* KD11-A */
else if (strcmp (arg, "44") == 0) /* 11/44 */
return set_cpu_model ("kd11dz"); /* KD11-Z */
else if (strcmp (arg, "45") == 0 || /* 11/45/50/55/70 */
strcmp (arg, "50") == 0 ||
strcmp (arg, "55") == 0 ||
strcmp (arg, "70") == 0)
return set_cpu_model ("kb11"); /* KB11 */
else if (strcmp (arg, "60") == 0) /* 11/60 */
return set_cpu_model ("kd11k"); /* KD11-K */
else if (strcmp (arg, "53") == 0 || /* 11/53/73/83/84/93/94 */
strcmp (arg, "73") == 0 ||
strcmp (arg, "83") == 0 ||
strcmp (arg, "84") == 0 ||
strcmp (arg, "93") == 0 ||
strcmp (arg, "94") == 0)
return set_cpu_model ("j11"); /* J11 */
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On an Expedition to NJ Tuesday, I rescued about 3/4 of a ton of magtapes.
Some of these will probably be interesting for the PUPS archive. In particular,
I'm reading through seven of 'em tonight. If someone could explain to
me how "Unix System V Release 2.0" and "Unix System III" work into the
grand scheme of AT&T Unices already in the PUPS archive, and how 2.9.1 BSD
might be different from (or the same as) the 2.9 BSD stuff already in the
archive, I'd forever appreciate it :-).
The first two tapes are AT&T Unix System V tapes for VAXen:
Tape 1:
AT&T 60462
Unix System V Release 2.0
VAX Version 2 for 11/780 and 11/750
TPName: Root and Selectables
AT&T 60462
Dwg: j1p077c-3 List:1M1
TP No: OTP-1P550-01 IS: 2.0V2
Order: VX501404 Spec:000 Item:1
BPI 1600 Max Blksize: 05120 Files:0009
Date:01/13/86 Opr: jlc Drv: tu-2
Tape 2:
AT&T 60463
Unix System V Release 2.0
VAX Version 2 for 11/780 and 11/750
TPName: USR File System
AT&T 60463
Dwg: j1p077c-3 List:2m2
TP No: OTP-1P550-02 IS: 2.0V2
Order: UX501404 Spec:000 Item:1
BPI 1600 Max Blksize: 05120 Files:0009
Date:01/13/86 Opr: jlc Drv: tu-0
The third tape is UNIX System III from AT&T:
Tape 3:
UNIX* System III
PDP 11/70,45 - 800 BPI
Release Tape #1
*UNIX is a trademark of Bell Laboratories
Restricted Rights
Use Duplication or Disclosure is Subject
To Restrictions Stated in your contract with
American Telephone & Telegraph
The Fourth and Fifth tape are either 2.9BSD or 2.9.1BSD (I
can't tell the difference until I compare these tapes with the
files already in the PUPS archives):
Tape 4:
Berkeley UNIX (Rev. 2.9.1) 2.9BSD
Sun Nov 20 14:55:50 PST 1983
800 BPI HT/TM boot tape. For tar files
skip the first 7 tape files with
``mt -t /dev/nrmt0 fsf 7''
Reel 1 of 2 Tape #
Tape 5:
Berkeley UNIX (Rev. 2.9.1) 2.9BSD
Sun Nov 20 14:55:50 PST 1983
800 BPI Tar of /usr/src
Reel 2 of 2
And Tapes 6 and 7 seem to be a complete distribution set of 4.2BSD,
they ought to form a good replacement for the supposedly damaged and
incomplete set in /Distributions/4bsd/4.2BSD.
Tape 6:
4.2bsd VAX UNIX System 8/23/83
6 files on tape:
1 (boot stuff) 2 (mini root)
3 ((root dump) 4 (/sys) 5 (/usr)
6 (/usr/lib/vfont)
last three are tar; 1600 bpi
Tape 7:
4.2bsd VAX UNIX System 8/23/83
tape 2: 3 files on tape
1 (/usr/src)
2 (user contributed software)
3 (/usr/ingres)
all files are tar; 1600 bpi
Like I said, there's about 3/4 of a ton of tapes in total, I'm sure there
are some other PUPS-related goodies deeper in the pile...
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Tim Shoppa <SHOPPA at trailing-edge.com> wrote:
> And Tapes 6 and 7 seem to be a complete distribution set of 4.2BSD,
> they ought to form a good replacement for the supposedly damaged and
> incomplete set in /Distributions/4bsd/4.2BSD.
>
> [contents skipped, perfectly matches CSRG 4.2BSD dist]
Yes, please read them and I'll put them in the archive. I maintain the 4BSD
area.
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In article by Tim Shoppa:
> On an Expedition to NJ Tuesday, I rescued about 3/4 of a ton of magtapes.
> Tape 1:
>
> AT&T 60462
> Unix System V Release 2.0
> VAX Version 2 for 11/780 and 11/750
> TPName: Root and Selectables
Yes please, I have sysVR0 in the archive at the moment.
> Tape 2:
> AT&T 60463
> Unix System V Release 2.0
> VAX Version 2 for 11/780 and 11/750
> TPName: USR File System
Yes please. Don't have it yet!
> Tape 3:
> UNIX* System III
> PDP 11/70,45 - 800 BPI
Could be the same as Distributions/usdl/SysIII, but read it anyway!
> And Tapes 6 and 7 seem to be a complete distribution set of 4.2BSD,
> they ought to form a good replacement for the supposedly damaged and
> incomplete set in /Distributions/4bsd/4.2BSD.
Again, yes please!!!
Thanks Tim.
Warren
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> Again, yes please!!!
Would it be useful if I also uploaded GIF's or JPG's or TIFF's of scans
of the labels on the original tapes? If so, is there any preference for
the format of the scan? These are all (as Tommy Smothers
would say) "the original virgin" tapes.
Tim.
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WOW. Great. Super !! :-)
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> From: Tim Shoppa <SHOPPA at trailing-edge.com>
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> On an Expedition to NJ Tuesday, I rescued about 3/4 of a ton of magtapes.
> Some of these will probably be interesting for the PUPS archive. In particular,
> I'm reading through seven of 'em tonight. If someone could explain to
> me how "Unix System V Release 2.0" and "Unix System III" work into the
> grand scheme of AT&T Unices already in the PUPS archive, and how 2.9.1 BSD
> might be different from (or the same as) the 2.9 BSD stuff already in the
> archive, I'd forever appreciate it :-).
>
> The first two tapes are AT&T Unix System V tapes for VAXen:
>
> Tape 1:
>
> AT&T 60462
> Unix System V Release 2.0
> VAX Version 2 for 11/780 and 11/750
> TPName: Root and Selectables
>
> AT&T 60462
> Dwg: j1p077c-3 List:1M1
> TP No: OTP-1P550-01 IS: 2.0V2
> Order: VX501404 Spec:000 Item:1
> BPI 1600 Max Blksize: 05120 Files:0009
> Date:01/13/86 Opr: jlc Drv: tu-2
>
>
> Tape 2:
> AT&T 60463
> Unix System V Release 2.0
> VAX Version 2 for 11/780 and 11/750
> TPName: USR File System
>
> AT&T 60463
> Dwg: j1p077c-3 List:2m2
> TP No: OTP-1P550-02 IS: 2.0V2
> Order: UX501404 Spec:000 Item:1
> BPI 1600 Max Blksize: 05120 Files:0009
> Date:01/13/86 Opr: jlc Drv: tu-0
>
>
> The third tape is UNIX System III from AT&T:
>
> Tape 3:
> UNIX* System III
> PDP 11/70,45 - 800 BPI
> Release Tape #1
> *UNIX is a trademark of Bell Laboratories
>
> Restricted Rights
> Use Duplication or Disclosure is Subject
> To Restrictions Stated in your contract with
> American Telephone & Telegraph
>
> The Fourth and Fifth tape are either 2.9BSD or 2.9.1BSD (I
> can't tell the difference until I compare these tapes with the
> files already in the PUPS archives):
>
> Tape 4:
>
> Berkeley UNIX (Rev. 2.9.1) 2.9BSD
> Sun Nov 20 14:55:50 PST 1983
> 800 BPI HT/TM boot tape. For tar files
> skip the first 7 tape files with
> ``mt -t /dev/nrmt0 fsf 7''
> Reel 1 of 2 Tape #
>
> Tape 5:
> Berkeley UNIX (Rev. 2.9.1) 2.9BSD
> Sun Nov 20 14:55:50 PST 1983
> 800 BPI Tar of /usr/src
> Reel 2 of 2
>
> And Tapes 6 and 7 seem to be a complete distribution set of 4.2BSD,
> they ought to form a good replacement for the supposedly damaged and
> incomplete set in /Distributions/4bsd/4.2BSD.
>
> Tape 6:
> 4.2bsd VAX UNIX System 8/23/83
> 6 files on tape:
> 1 (boot stuff) 2 (mini root)
> 3 ((root dump) 4 (/sys) 5 (/usr)
> 6 (/usr/lib/vfont)
> last three are tar; 1600 bpi
>
> Tape 7:
> 4.2bsd VAX UNIX System 8/23/83
> tape 2: 3 files on tape
> 1 (/usr/src)
> 2 (user contributed software)
> 3 (/usr/ingres)
> all files are tar; 1600 bpi
>
> Like I said, there's about 3/4 of a ton of tapes in total, I'm sure there
> are some other PUPS-related goodies deeper in the pile...
>
> --
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> > Again, yes please!!!
>
> Would it be useful if I also uploaded GIF's or JPG's or TIFF's of scans
> of the labels on the original tapes? If so, is there any preference for
> the format of the scan? These are all (as Tommy Smothers
> would say) "the original virgin" tapes.
Well, I'm presently only a client of the archive, so to say, but why not use
png (the gif replacement advocated by the FSF). Better not use GIF for all
this licensing issues. And as far as I see, png can be shown by -- well --
Netscape, whereas TIFF requires a plugin or an external viewer.
Regards - Markus
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OK, I started sorting through some more piles of tapes, and I found
a one more thing that I'm-not-quite-sure-where-it-fits:
Two tapes labeled "Vol 1 of 2" and "Vol 2 of 2" and then "2.10.2 SMS
Unix". Steven, does this mean you know what's on this and how it's
different than the 2.10 and 2.10.1 stuff already in the archive? :-) Terry
didn't remember...
Also, more goodies that may (or may not) be appropriate to add:
* A 4.3BSD-Reno VAX tape dated "1/2/91". I suppose I have to get down
on my hands and knees and see how this differs from the version dated
"30 Jul 90" currently in Distributions/4bsd/4.3BSD-Reno. This has
the original UCB stickers on it.
* A set of tar files on a tape claiming to be the "4.4BSD snapshot
4/1/92". Is PUPS/TUHS collecting anything anything this late? Is
something like this already in Kirk's archive?
Tim.
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Tim Shoppa <SHOPPA at trailing-edge.com> wrote:
> * A 4.3BSD-Reno VAX tape dated "1/2/91". I suppose I have to get down
> on my hands and knees and see how this differs from the version dated
> "30 Jul 90" currently in Distributions/4bsd/4.3BSD-Reno. This has
> the original UCB stickers on it.
Yes.
> * A set of tar files on a tape claiming to be the "4.4BSD snapshot
> 4/1/92". Is PUPS/TUHS collecting anything anything this late? Is
> something like this already in Kirk's archive?
Kirk, you'll have to fill me in on this one. Is this the "4.4BSD-Alpha" I've
seen mentioned in some places? In any case this is not on Kirk's CD-ROMs and
I'll include it in my 4BSD collection.
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>> * A set of tar files on a tape claiming to be the "4.4BSD snapshot
>> 4/1/92". Is PUPS/TUHS collecting anything anything this late? Is
>> something like this already in Kirk's archive?
>Kirk, you'll have to fill me in on this one. Is this the "4.4BSD-Alpha" I've
>seen mentioned in some places? In any case this is not on Kirk's CD-ROMs and
>I'll include it in my 4BSD collection.
I found a separate tape, labeled "August 23, 1992", with a matching cover
letter (signed by Kirk McKusick) saying "This is a distribution tape
for the 4.4BSD-Alpha release ... The binaries and kernel on the
tape support the HP 9000/300 68000-based workstations...". Is this
the holy grail?
I would guess the "4.4BSD snapshot 4/1/92" is pre-release.
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Quasijarus Consortium members and TUHS/PUPS archive users,
Since early fall 1998 the archive has had an incomplete distribution of 4.2BSD
reconstructed from some bogus tape images from Per Andersson. This morning Tim
Shoppa read an authentic 4.2BSD tape dist. I compared it with the incomplete
dist in the archive and found that it is the same dist, Tim Shoppa's version is
complete and correct, and Per Andersson's version was incomplete. The files
that were in the archive were correct. I added the missing files this morning,
making the 4.2BSD dist in the archive complete. It is in
Distributions/4bsd/4.2BSD, it is a superset of what was there before (because
what was there before was just missing some files), and it identically matches
Tim Shoppa's copy in his home directory.
I left Per Andersson's original (bogus) files in the Per_Andersson
subdirectory. Warren, it's up to you if you want to keep or delete them.
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Tim Shoppa <SHOPPA at trailing-edge.com> wrote:
> I found a separate tape, labeled "August 23, 1992", with a matching cover
> letter (signed by Kirk McKusick) saying "This is a distribution tape
> for the 4.4BSD-Alpha release ... The binaries and kernel on the
> tape support the HP 9000/300 68000-based workstations...". Is this
> the holy grail?
OK, I dunno whether it qualifies as "the holy grail" or not, but yes, it is the
4.4BSD-Alpha dist.
> I would guess the "4.4BSD snapshot 4/1/92" is pre-release.
OK, just upload both if you can, I'll be happy to put them in the archive and
I'm sure Warren will be too.
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From: "Jason T. Miller" <jasomill@shaffstall.com>
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Sorry in advance if you unintentionally deleted this message because of
the topic, I'm an incorrigable smart-arse and couldn't resist. My other
idea was ILOVEYOU, but that's been done before...
> This thread has gotten *way* beyond what I (and I'll bet many others)
> read this list for.
The initiator of this post was yours truly. I have been silet since this
post. I hate politics. I figured, "just let it simmer down and then
rationally respond." I hate flamefesten.
Sorry. Can't please everybody all the time. Hey, I don't even try, most of
the time. I find that sitting on the fence can be quite an uncomfortable
position to be in, especially if you're on one of the fenceposts. But, wie
immer, I digress. I didn't mean to crowd your (that is, the royal "your")
mailbox with my hardware woes. I had some issues, directly related to my
_usage_ of PDP-11 UNIX, and, insofar as both the mentioned PDP-11 mailing
list and the DECUS PDP-11 list on eisner.decus.org are both ghost towns,
and several members of this mailing list seem to know quite a bit about
both the hardware platform and the software I choose to run (2.11BSD), I
dreamt of things that never were and said "why not." Thanks to the
knowledge of fellow list-members, my questions were answered, my problem
was solved, and the result is now available in the PUPS archive under
Tools/Disks/rx50-FreeBSD.tar.gz (no comments on code quality to the group,
please; that would be off-topic [read: embarassing] :) Qs and Cs to
jasomill at indiana.edu welcome), which is useful to me and may possibly be
of some interest to other PDP-11 UNIX hobbyists trying to solve the same
problem.
I read the entire PUPS mailing list archive before making my first post.
I've noticed that the top three platform-specific topics seem to be (in
order of appearance):
1) emulator software
2) VAX hardware
3) PDP hardware
I don't use an emulator and I don't have a VAX (though I want one very
very much, but admittably to run VMS mostly), but the discussions don't
bother me. As a matter of fact, some of them interest me; those that
don't, I skip. Anyway, just an observation.
I know it's not the PHPS, but I can not be dissuaded in my belief that
actually _using_ the systems is a vital part of a living preservation
effort, and using them without functional hardware is a bit difficult,
emulators notwithstanding. But please don't deactivate me :), I'll read a
UHS list and a PUPS list and a VAX list and an RT-PC list (I've been
wanting to get my hands on one of those buggers for awhile, actually),
desirous of everything at the same time, and try my best not to yawn and
say commonplace things (apologizes to Jack Kerouac). Thanks again for help
and interesting discussion, to all parties involved, mad to talk or less
so.
What about archiving PDP hardware information? I don't mean discussing
obscure timing details of RK05 controllers or anything, but having a
section of the archive for random hardware tidbits re: PDP. It's not
_directly_ related to UNIX preservation, but it'd be a boon to PDP UNIX
users (not to mention keeping list traffic down in re: these things), and
its space requirements are miniscule. Maybe wait until the PDP-specific
stuff is split off, and create a directory. I'd be happy to maintain it
(I'm also attempting to contact DEC ne Compaq about getting some legacy
docs released; those, of course, would be included; no, that's not what
Mentec bought, I don't think, that's RSX and RSTS/E and RT-11, maybe even
Ultrix. They provide engineering support to DEC PDP-11 customers as well
as compatible hardware, but I believe Compaq still owns the copyrights to
the Digital hardware documentation. Not 100% sure though).
Once again, sorry, once again, thanks, and in closing,
AWWWW,
jasomill
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It may have already been discussed before, but here is the list of
distirbutions on McKusick's "The CSRG Archives" 4-CD set:
1BSD, 2BSD, 3BSD, 2.9pucc, 2.10, 2.79, 2.8, 2.9, 4.0, 4.1, 4.1a, 4.1c.1,
4.1c.2, 4.1.snap, 4.2, 4.3, VM.snapshot.1, VM.snapshot.2, 4.3Tahoe,
4.3Reno, Net/1, Net/2, 4.4, 4.4-Lite1, 4.4-Lite2, and /usr/src SCCS
files.
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David O'Brien <obrien at NUXI.com> wrote:
> It may have already been discussed before, but here is the list of
> distirbutions on McKusick's "The CSRG Archives" 4-CD set:
>
> 1BSD, 2BSD, 3BSD, 2.9pucc, 2.10, 2.79, 2.8, 2.9, 4.0, 4.1, 4.1a, 4.1c.1,
> 4.1c.2, 4.1.snap, 4.2, 4.3, VM.snapshot.1, VM.snapshot.2, 4.3Tahoe,
> 4.3Reno, Net/1, Net/2, 4.4, 4.4-Lite1, 4.4-Lite2, and /usr/src SCCS
> files.
I know this of course, I have one.
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