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[49.179.37.85]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d9443c01a7336-1faac9c3376sm419315ad.280.2024.06.26.16.28.37 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 26 Jun 2024 16:28:38 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3774.600.62\)) From: Peter Yardley In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2024 09:28:24 +1000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <88C39442-B81A-4680-A4CC-0794608A87E1@gmail.com> References: To: Ori Idan X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3774.600.62) Message-ID-Hash: HM5QG7BQ476F7QTJ6S77EYFEROMSK3QB X-Message-ID-Hash: HM5QG7BQ476F7QTJ6S77EYFEROMSK3QB X-MailFrom: peter.martin.yardley@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: Chet Ramey via TUHS X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: ANSI (C) vs IEEE (POSIX) Standards Body Selection List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: IEEE publishes standards as well. https://standards.ieee.org/ > On 27 Jun 2024, at 4:32=E2=80=AFAM, Ori Idan = wrote: >=20 > As far as I know IEEE is not really a standard, it is a = recommendation, while ANSI is a standard. ANSI is the American standard = and ISO is International. >=20 > --=20 > Ori Idan CEO Helicon Books > http://www.heliconbooks.com >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 8:56=E2=80=AFPM segaloco via TUHS = wrote: > Good morning, I was wondering if anyone has the scoop on the rationale = behind the selection of standards bodies for the publication of UNIX and = UNIX-adjacent standards. C was published via the ANSI route as X3.159, = whereas POSIX was instead published by the IEEE route as 1003.1. Was = there every any consideration of C through IEEE or POSIX through ANSI = instead? Is there an appreciable difference suggested by the difference = in publishers? In any case, both saw subsequent adoption by ISO/IEC, so = the track to an international standard seems to lead to the same = organizations. >=20 > - Matt G. Peter Yardley peter.martin.yardley@gmail.com