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WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - shared83.accountservergroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - minnie.tuhs.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - e-bbes.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 108.176.122.118 X-Source-L: No X-Exim-ID: 1jL59X-001SN1-BL X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: rrcs-108-176-122-118.nys.biz.rr.com ([192.168.1.133]) [108.176.122.118]:60032 X-Source-Auth: emu@e-bbes.com X-Email-Count: 3 X-Source-Cap: ZW11YmVzO2VtdWJlcztzaGFyZWQ4My5hY2NvdW50c2VydmVyZ3JvdXAuY29t X-Local-Domain: yes Subject: Re: [TUHS] 8th Edition timeline X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On 2020-04-04 17:32, Rob Pike wrote: > Sam wasn't nee jim. Jim was a toy, sam is a serious editor. > > My notebooks are hundreds of pages of figuring stuff out. Perhaps > valuable information to historians, but not easily compressed for this > forum. If you need anybody with a scanner an patience, please tell me ;-) > -rob > > On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 5:57 AM Noel Hunt wrote: >> >> I would be interested too. That was a seminal time with the >> proliferation of graphical programs, such as jim, pads/pi, >> proof, the sophisticated menus of 'mhit.c' etc. It is curious >> that little if any of that code made the transition to Plan9 >> (apart from sam, nee jim). >> >> >> On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 12:19 AM emanuel stiebler wrote: >>> >>> On 2020-03-30 05:06, Rob Pike wrote: >>>> I've looked through my notes and unfortunately there's very little >>>> about this as the notes are mostly about graphics and physics. >>> >>> I wouldn't mind seeing the note baout graphics, even if not on topic for >>> this group ...