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[70.176.144.76]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id kb1sm418361pjb.56.2022.01.10.19.22.51 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 10 Jan 2022 19:22:51 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 15.0 \(3693.40.0.1.81\)) From: Adam Thornton In-Reply-To: <4409b91cd794867d@orthanc.ca> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 20:22:49 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <8BCC2106-67EA-40D7-9C32-523FD7D7A3C1@gmail.com> References: <20211231234039.GU31637@mcvoy.com> <20220101005605.GL75481@eureka.lemis.com> <20220101031511.GB8135@mcvoy.com> <20220111015901.GE25103@eureka.lemis.com> <4409b91cd794867d@orthanc.ca> To: "Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM)" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3693.40.0.1.81) Subject: Re: [TUHS] Demise of TeX and groff (was: roff(7)) X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Computer Old Farts Followers Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Taking this to COFF... > On Jan 10, 2022, at 7:13 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM) = wrote: >=20 > Greg 'groggy' Lehey writes: >=20 >> As long as man pages are formatted with ?roff, I don't see it going >> away. I don't suppose many people use troff any more, but there are >> enough of us, and as long as man pages stay the way they are, I don't >> think we're in any danger. >=20 > Well there is mandoc(1). But as time goes by they just seem to be > re-implementing nroff. Of course that *must* be easier than just > learning n/troff in the first place :-P As someone who did a lot of a Ph.D. in the history of computing, and = then went into IT because he liked eating protein sometimes: The great secret is that NO ONE EVER READS THE LITERATURE. We have now made all the mistakes at least four times: Once for each of mainframes, minis, micros, and mobile. You can be a rock star at any development or operations job, even if you = are, like me, a Bear Of Little Brain, simply by having some idea of what = was tried already to solve a problem like this, and why it didn't work. Which you can get by actually stopping to read up about your problem = before diving headfirst into coding up a solution for it. If you happen to get stinking rich from this advice, you can buy me a = bottle of whiskey sometime. Adam=