From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: (qmail 12160 invoked from network); 2 May 2020 09:11:31 -0000 Received-SPF: pass (minnie.tuhs.org: domain of minnie.tuhs.org designates 45.79.103.53 as permitted sender) receiver=inbox.vuxu.org; client-ip=45.79.103.53 envelope-from= Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 2 May 2020 09:11:31 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 9FE349C979; Sat, 2 May 2020 19:11:28 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0BD29C851; Sat, 2 May 2020 19:10:59 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=planet.nl header.i=@planet.nl header.b="XKpNovPw"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 30C669C851; Sat, 2 May 2020 19:10:56 +1000 (AEST) Received: from cpsmtpb-ews10.kpnxchange.com (cpsmtpb-ews10.kpnxchange.com [213.75.39.15]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A2819C733 for ; Sat, 2 May 2020 19:10:55 +1000 (AEST) Received: from cpsps-ews30.kpnxchange.com ([10.94.84.196]) by cpsmtpb-ews10.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(8.5.9600.16384); Sat, 2 May 2020 11:10:49 +0200 X-Brand: 7abm2Q== X-KPN-SpamVerdict: e1=0;e2=0;e3=0;e4=(e1=10;e3=10;e2=11;e4=10);EVW:Whi te;BM:NotScanned;FinalVerdict:Clean X-CMAE-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=M9DW1x4s c=1 sm=1 tr=0 cx=a_idp_e a=4/rmT19p7yX2nqNQQg5uwQ==:117 a=soxbC+bCkqwFbqeW/W/r+Q==:17 a=x1i13A_MHe4A:10 a=sTwFKg_x9MkA:10 a=jEIl9BPeAAAA:8 a=wMLVuvVov0tUd-0SczYA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=lvNDOE9i95YA:10 a=0jSbgGWV83kD9oCX:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=UbykG2d9i8y_PxD0dgl3:22 X-CM-AcctID: kpn@feedback.cloudmark.com Received: from smtp.kpnmail.nl ([195.121.84.44]) by cpsps-ews30.kpnxchange.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(8.5.9600.16384); Sat, 2 May 2020 11:10:49 +0200 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=planet.nl; s=planet01; h=to:date:subject:mime-version:content-type:message-id:from; bh=k8788vW9RoRPsGTVO12qj/+BfID6+TIi08f/4fAHKKk=; b=XKpNovPwfoQEVhdDvr4XjYZae0MjbTuzTMUFvxO7N/awkbRM7ld/dad63lN2o6cMqEaBuv1KHh7V7 ML7Ab4EIaIbUn++q6NORH2HSzM3X3mUP8wUtKOEsqf2IUexzipxmyP4zM6UljJWIxHJotWqSbkNaAa rqEIW7zxQFebK5Go= X-KPN-VerifiedSender: Yes X-CMASSUN: 33|E9EHfzWC+jY9uyCf9IDmH6129gbtyGQK+v0u3gCexSowWxr9j0KZu2WSE3TKKEt bJ+vrhSdPrUaOoD/8negNUw== X-Originating-IP: 80.101.112.122 Received: from mba1.fritz.box (sqlite.xs4all.nl [80.101.112.122]) by smtp.kpnmail.nl (Halon) with ESMTPSA id d04ca2da-8c54-11ea-b0f1-005056abf0db; Sat, 02 May 2020 11:10:49 +0200 (CEST) From: Paul Ruizendaal Message-Id: <8CBDD12A-563F-458D-938B-3AF84D936F39@planet.nl> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_8C851605-0334-478A-9590-5906BAE1B609" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) Date: Sat, 2 May 2020 11:10:48 +0200 In-Reply-To: To: TUHS main list References: <2F4C604D-F01C-4A82-948A-7E77093B48A1@planet.nl> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 May 2020 09:10:49.0152 (UTC) FILETIME=[923EE400:01D62061] X-RcptDomain: minnie.tuhs.org Subject: Re: [TUHS] SDB debugger X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --Apple-Mail=_8C851605-0334-478A-9590-5906BAE1B609 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On May 1, 2020, at 11:57 PM, Clem Cole wrote: > [Note to Warren, we should put 4.1 in the browsing tree. The kernel = is different enough from 4.0 and does have new utilities, although it = was not nearly as different as 4.1c. The reality is until 4.2BSD came = out with the networking support, most Vaxen running BSD were 4.1 not 4.0 = based. It is already there! The entry named "BBN's TCP/IP Code for the VAX=E2=80=9D= is 4.1BSD with the BBN TCP stack added. The changes to the kernel are = just one or two dozen lines (all in sys2.c and main.c) bracketed in = #ifdef BBNNET blocks. The actual network stack is in a separate build = directory. Maybe the entry should be renamed =E2=80=9C4.1BSD with TCP/IP=E2=80=9D = to make this more clear. --Apple-Mail=_8C851605-0334-478A-9590-5906BAE1B609 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
On = May 1, 2020, at 11:57 PM, Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com> wrote:

[Note to Warren, we = should put 4.1 in the browsing tree.  The kernel is different = enough from 4.0 and does have new utilities, although it was not nearly = as different as 4.1c.  The reality is until 4.2BSD came out with = the networking support, most Vaxen running BSD were 4.1 not 4.0 = based.

It is already there! The entry named "BBN's TCP/IP Code = for the VAX=E2=80=9D is 4.1BSD with the BBN TCP stack added. The changes = to the kernel are just one or two dozen lines (all in sys2.c and main.c) = bracketed in #ifdef BBNNET blocks. The actual network stack is in a = separate build directory.

Maybe the = entry should be renamed =E2=80=9C4.1BSD with TCP/IP=E2=80=9D to make = this more clear.


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