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Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.3.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Junkmail-Status: score=8/90, host=mpv4-2015.case.edu X-Junkmail-PrAS-Raw: score=8/90, refid=2.7.2:2020.1.7.202717:17:8.317, ip=, rules=DKIM_SIGNATURE, __HAS_REPLYTO, __HAS_CC_HDR, __MULTIPLE_RCPTS_CC_X2, __SUBJ_REPLY, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __SUBJ_ALPHA_END, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __TO_NAME, __TO_NAME_DIFF_FROM_ACC, __HAS_REFERENCES, __REFERENCES, __HAS_FROM, FROM_EDU_TLD, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, DATE_TZ_NA, __USER_AGENT, __MOZILLA_USER_AGENT, __MIME_VERSION, __IN_REP_TO, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __CTE, __REPLYTO_SAMEAS_FROM_ADDY, __REPLYTO_SAMEAS_FROM_ACC, __FROM_DOMAIN_IN_ANY_CC2, __REPLYTO_SAMEAS_FROM_DOMAIN, __DKIM_ALIGNS_1, __DKIM_ALIGNS_2, __ANY_URI, __URI_MAILTO, __URI_WITH_PATH, __URI_NO_WWW, __CP_URI_IN_BODY, __FRAUD_MONEY_CURRENCY_DOLLAR, __SUBJ_ALPHA_NEGATE, __URI_IN_BODY, __URI_NOT_IMG, __MAIL_CHAIN, __FORWARDED_MSG, __BODY_NO_MAILTO, __NO_HTML_TAG_RAW, BODY_SIZE_1100_1199, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, __MIME_TEXT_P1, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY, __URI_NS, [TRUNCATED], so=2010-03-03 19:42:08, dmn=2016-08-03-0138 Subject: Re: [TUHS] screen editors X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: chet.ramey@case.edu Cc: tuhs@tuhs.org Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On 1/7/20 10:50 AM, Thomas Paulsen wrote: >> It was so excesssive right from the start that I refused to use it. >> Sam was the first screen editor that I deemed worthwhile, and I >> still use it today. > my sam build is more than 2 times bigger than Gunnar Ritter's vi (or Steve Kirkendall's elvis) and even bigger than Bram Moolenaar's vim. If we're really doing this editor size contest thing, I'll submit my `ce' editor. (ftp://ftp.cwru.edu/pub/chet/ce-4.8.tar.gz). It's emacs-like, but not particularly configurable, and the defaults, strangely enough, are exactly what I like. On my Mac OS X machine, it's about ten times smaller than vim $ size /usr/local/bin/ce __TEXT __DATA __OBJC others dec hex 114688 339968 0 4295024640 4295479296 10007d000 $ size /usr/bin/vim __TEXT __DATA __OBJC others dec hex 1687552 176128 0 4295016448 4296880128 1001d3000 Similar numbers on RHEL 7, but due to the large bss, it's only about 45% smaller than vim. Chet -- ``The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne.'' - Chaucer ``Ars longa, vita brevis'' - Hippocrates Chet Ramey, UTech, CWRU chet@case.edu http://tiswww.cwru.edu/~chet/