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[129.22.8.211]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q26-20020a05620a2a5a00b00704df12317esm19818334qkp.24.2023.01.03.08.34.15 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 03 Jan 2023 08:34:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8fab0787-11cc-2efe-3704-211331541f02@case.edu> Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2023 11:34:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.6.0 Content-Language: en-US To: arnold@skeeve.com, tuhs@tuhs.org, pnr@planet.nl References: <52FB6638-AEFF-4A4F-8C2E-32089D577BA0@planet.nl> <464819f0-d2f6-2a60-6481-a194f4428b4d@case.edu> <202301011044.301Aib7T009476@freefriends.org> <202301011128.301BS8D2015648@freefriends.org> From: Chet Ramey In-Reply-To: <202301011128.301BS8D2015648@freefriends.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mirapoint-IP-Reputation: reputation=Good-1, source=Queried, refid=tid=0001.0A742F91.63B45007.0020, actions=tag X-Mirapoint-IP-Reputation: reputation=good-1, source=Fixed, refid=n/a, actions=tag X-Junkmail-Status: score=8/90, host=mpv-out-cfd-1.case.edu X-Junkmail-PrAS-Raw: score=8/90, refid=2.7.2:2023.1.3.160026:17:8.317, ip=, rules=__YOUTUBE_RCVD, DKIM_SIGNATURE, __X_GOOGLE_DKIM_SIGNATURE, __X_GM_MESSAGE_STATE, __X_GOOGLE_SMTP_SOURCE, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, __MSGID_HEX_844412, DATE_TZ_NA, __MIME_VERSION, __USER_AGENT, __MOZILLA_USER_AGENT, __HAS_REPLYTO, __HAS_CC_HDR, __SUBJ_REPLY, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __SUBJ_ALPHA_END, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __TO_NO_NAME, __MULTIPLE_RCPTS_TO_X2, __HAS_REFERENCES, __REFERENCES, __HAS_FROM, FROM_EDU_TLD, __IN_REP_TO, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __CTE, CTE_7BIT, __REPLYTO_SAMEAS_FROM_ADDY, __REPLYTO_SAMEAS_FROM_ACC, __FROM_DOMAIN_IN_ANY_CC1, __FROM_DOMAIN_IN_ANY_CC2, __HEADER_ORDER_FROM, __RCPT_DOMAIN_NOT_TO, __REPLYTO_SAMEAS_FROM_DOMAIN, __DKIM_ALIGNS_1, __DKIM_ALIGNS_2, __FUR_HEADER, __ANY_URI, __URI_MAILTO, __URI_WITH_PATH, __URI_ENDS_IN_SLASH, __URI_NO_WWW, __CP_URI_IN_BODY, __SUBJ_ALPHA_NEGATE, __URI_IN_BODY, [TRUNCATED], so=2010-03-03 19:42:08, dmn=2016-08-03-0138 Message-ID-Hash: 27UZIVTC4H4TYTUM3QSBYLRLPMPLSE3L X-Message-ID-Hash: 27UZIVTC4H4TYTUM3QSBYLRLPMPLSE3L X-MailFrom: chet.ramey@case.edu X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Reply-To: chet.ramey@case.edu Subject: [TUHS] Re: A few comments on porting the Bourne shell List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On 1/1/23 6:28 AM, arnold@skeeve.com wrote: > I also recall that there was some USENET discussion in which > Rob Pike described how the 8th edition shell changed the search > order to have functions come before non-special built-ins, with > the addition of "builtin" and "whatis" commands. I have this somewhere. It's a rocking back-and-forth between Rob and David Korn about shell philosophy. Well worth the read if you can find it. -- ``The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne.'' - Chaucer ``Ars longa, vita brevis'' - Hippocrates Chet Ramey, UTech, CWRU chet@case.edu http://tiswww.cwru.edu/~chet/