From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,NICE_REPLY_A, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 11933 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2021 05:06:01 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 10 Jul 2021 05:06:01 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 12EB59448B; Sat, 10 Jul 2021 15:05:57 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03AD193D85; Sat, 10 Jul 2021 15:05:00 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="WIOZoOJN"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 0380E93D85; Sat, 10 Jul 2021 15:05:00 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-pf1-f177.google.com (mail-pf1-f177.google.com [209.85.210.177]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 11B2593D3C for ; Sat, 10 Jul 2021 15:04:57 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-pf1-f177.google.com with SMTP id a127so10676801pfa.10 for ; Fri, 09 Jul 2021 22:04:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=WyIZHY/weTVAEVQ9K8aDd0h0yGSzz4r2Md744t46ld0=; b=WIOZoOJNOGW+mbn/gedtbe10HKu1WWnaVJx6wARne+oWCy6I0o/N1akbwwHCFXq2eJ GFh09VIjmxYNcqIHnckJ+37srFEAPwprj+jS/2oCUXbRBgvh52E6LQzch8Z7NWnofxBD AMHlO57plGBrJVCWLZiWCzf8EdwI1TAQ51YVlRd2rYwI3jKqnTaG/QYbOjDpw8ViY94z wC8pXrLzUE4ukst4Oe1ZQzIIZ8LfvXK4Hth8s9JFVJ/p2RIzRQfLAP2fah5bZ8DehTvG SGSBYQck7Fva6qyWKkWwGuYI9OTPNtu2Bm3/LJaiJWsBp9Hg1/TmsbhGxEwrcKj4sbiV aERw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=WyIZHY/weTVAEVQ9K8aDd0h0yGSzz4r2Md744t46ld0=; b=ljSDjUkuYL33RHndiUR/8xumE6zDfkZ/4ysCYQjE6pDB91hqCYuiFHvNRxBSotz9GN BEuLzKWp33wOREodxavr2UBcXLb6yAkrKE+p+qtHmx5BNAiSDQpfEqnrn+cgprE4JKxQ VN7LqVEIzt7ylmgP5ApF36eOGsQaD7g2ZJ9qNyqQFtVSvkI8OHLzIveMxbBudP7h0/A8 clkPTVxPXr7gqHI9Ko/3z/TcQ3cG4O2w+uHaHZLmpF0RGazyw+GKZALRXBs1VO4zN5O2 zJF6uJqJbZGZCwZWsy40cyesN1X74+Ad+zRaI+ic8JC5FHW44dfL24pwpVf7te3aUyA0 f15w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533NRmxEBNdHs5VFYp6gsgQxz360vkSJucNo7B96i2UJwEBE7oy5 wSV1yE7ALpW9WDGLP7W3qeIfMgtNFe5+vw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJySBJgaB8K3LqlcdUqwFgDaqM7ETKy3aUWsGZDv0oCM5E0LEMCvRRveFRidvZ2LMv5vWdFEOw== X-Received: by 2002:a63:e64a:: with SMTP id p10mr41384877pgj.424.1625893496366; Fri, 09 Jul 2021 22:04:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Jons-MacBook-Pro.local (135-180-13-124.fiber.dynamic.sonic.net. [135.180.13.124]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t5sm9829499pgb.58.2021.07.09.22.04.55 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 09 Jul 2021 22:04:56 -0700 (PDT) To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org References: <202107021140.162BeWZt018129@freefriends.org> <9d28ce46-f314-bc00-d2db-1f11b353b9f3@mhorton.net> From: Jon Forrest Message-ID: <909572cb-cdc7-ebfa-d01b-7adbadcfa1c2@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2021 22:04:55 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9d28ce46-f314-bc00-d2db-1f11b353b9f3@mhorton.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [TUHS] First machine to run rogue? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On 7/9/21 8:17 PM, Mary Ann Horton wrote: > As I recall, Rogue began to appear in late 1980 or early 81 at Berkeley. > I primarily remember it on the Vax. But I thought Toy et al originally > wrote it at UCSB and then it came to UCB. I was at UCSB from the time the first Unix machine arrived until 1985. I'm not aware of any Rogue activity there. > The source was widely available and widely customized. I think I brought > a copy with me to Bell Labs in 1981 where Bob Flandrena eventually > sprouted the "brogue" variant. Some of the monsters could eat into the > walls between rooms, and when there was a line of several chasing you > down a hallway, one or two of them would pull around to pass... Brogue > worked on my new curses, it was in effect part of the test. I heard there was a version that contained Ed Gould roaming around. Jon