From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 150867da for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2020 03:59:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 4BAF89C148; Mon, 20 Jan 2020 13:59:29 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 460239C0FD; Mon, 20 Jan 2020 13:59:13 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="N7bYeZh+"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 697049C0FD; Mon, 20 Jan 2020 13:59:11 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-pf1-f180.google.com (mail-pf1-f180.google.com [209.85.210.180]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B69FD9BFE6 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2020 13:59:08 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-pf1-f180.google.com with SMTP id i23so15139214pfo.2 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 19:59:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=dmQY1NE8f+Ard5bfWe5npt+uVPwf2tOIuciW8O4LEcw=; b=N7bYeZh+IbtOq6fJmiKsEmI/dkmcGAsFsto1FMtGCyHJc57m1hmByZVpZMMkRWd23Q ddo5dUgQDYKIP6z7hbyVGOUsPNFrJkXpFVp+2rjZHTh+LBDv+7fLgE1eKRAwGfsm/Gag EmZwQOHlOkUbL1ExaqQhBLHn77KtGA86gxeiBWYxMdxoZRDqdJec2vbssK1j6K9sQG88 Zk1EDd66wGFhoPAupcqr5qjKwCDUBCeysU0/S0vXXbAslWC9uoU49QTI45XjIAUwUSEj Vyc/oDQ7tUKMoeRI0O0sOSaUv9Nmy74I7EAu2kYuynI5hLYKvlbOwp+wcgUtgDqhL9EP domw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=dmQY1NE8f+Ard5bfWe5npt+uVPwf2tOIuciW8O4LEcw=; b=k8p6f9HVjn+N4st/5sWYENiijy3wrvgNL1IV+fenBHWgsPo/FJV65/VpAQ/D1aV3W8 lrADXsVkwdLsvn1Z6AOCo2EfQJ6B/LV1SarsiVCxn8FmnPsNUGOtCjqS290VN3iuWG82 a3VmXFVdvRVoSXxxHLo+0Fl4+yGVK1TJsWDVqwrIYlrGXo894Tw7yKBtBYV1nUOaEeZq HK1tugxO3HBQdU5JSbQhYNPLpPdMQ2JPvlEYM7J0Y8/WrWaLPGmLrhalB5IC8G02snlb zT3C4YbB9OF71re8amEoJcFDLoziemluUntKCJtFB5InI5TCsrO7I7Bj203+3JHbOoKv ua+Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVIrO0Z4GhQtUa1gTSntuSlAc1J5v55Qv0VaQMvOgx9S89GGk4U Pg0cH70lCBgT9/9bLh7vI7CQdfPqBEU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyRfA5Iv32JnfMUSNGPpBG5rsOlnbekWtDAV48gvv9Ky+QSccfQlI1AXB0EvLkJEQczJuphZQ== X-Received: by 2002:a63:ed48:: with SMTP id m8mr57003612pgk.399.1579492747938; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 19:59:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.5] (157-131-108-81.fiber.dynamic.sonic.net. [157.131.108.81]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a17sm1608933pjv.6.2020.01.19.19.59.07 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 19 Jan 2020 19:59:07 -0800 (PST) To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org References: <20200117195908.GF15253@ancienthardware.org> <20200118035051.GC481935@mit.edu> <20200118041913.GB67053@eureka.lemis.com> <20200119024900.GA15860@mit.edu> <20200119031225.GI67053@eureka.lemis.com> <20200119035808.GK67053@eureka.lemis.com> <20200119132551.GC15860@mit.edu> From: Jon Forrest Message-ID: <932dc73b-c2f9-a22c-ad20-4b41d23e929e@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2020 19:59:06 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.4.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [TUHS] Early Linux and BSD X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On 1/19/2020 7:51 PM, George Michaelson wrote: > What I think I missed (didn't understand) was how draining support was > for Berkeley Two of the founders of NetBSD were undergrads who were also members of the Postgres research group that I was a part of. They did NetBSD without any formal support from UC Berkeley. Whether or not this was a good thing is debatable. Jon