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From: scj@yaccman.com (Steve Johnson)
Subject: [TUHS] Unix stories, Stephen Bourne and IF-FI in C code
Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2017 19:31:18 -0800	[thread overview]
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In-Reply-To: <1483929007.6355.for-standards-violators@oclsc.org>

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I wasn't directly involved in this, but I do remember Dennis telling
me essentially the same story.  I don't recall him mentioning Ken's
name, just that "we couldn't use _od_ because that was already taken".

Steve B and I had adjacent offices, so I overheard a lot of the
discussions about the Bourne shell.  The quoting mechanisms, in
particular, got a lot of attention, I think to good end.  There was a
lot more thought there than is evident from the surface...

Steve (not Bourne)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Norman Wilson" <norman@oclsc.org>
To:<tuhs at tuhs.org>
Cc:
Sent:Sun, 08 Jan 2017 21:30:03 -0500
Subject:Re: [TUHS] Unix stories, Stephen Bourne and IF-FI in C code

 Doug McIlroy:

 There was some pushback which resulted in the strange compromise
 of if-fi, case-esac, do-done. Alas, the details have slipped from
 memory. Help, scj?

 ====

 do-od would have required renaming the long-tenured od(1).

 I remember a tale--possibly chat in the UNIX Room at one point in
 the latter 1980s--that Steve tried and tried and tried to convince
 Ken to rename od, in the name of symmetry and elegance. Ken simply
 said no, as many times as it took. I don't remember who I heard this
 from; anyone still in touch with Ken who can ask him?

 Norman Wilson
 Toronto ON

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Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-09  2:30 Norman Wilson
2017-01-09  3:31 ` Steve Johnson [this message]
2017-01-09 15:30   ` Marc Rochkind
2017-01-09 15:45     ` arnold
2017-01-09 15:59       ` ron minnich
2017-01-09 16:03       ` Clem Cole
2017-01-10 18:44         ` Lawrence Stewart
2017-01-09 18:48     ` Derek Fawcus
2017-01-09 20:35     ` Steve Johnson
2017-01-10 12:24       ` Tony Finch
2017-01-11  6:00   ` Brantley Coile
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-01-10 13:50 Noel Chiappa
2017-01-10  4:40 Rudi Blom
     [not found] <mailman.1.1484013601.5032.tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>
2017-01-10  3:11 ` Paul McJones
2017-01-09  1:06 Doug McIlroy
2017-01-09  2:18 ` Random832
2017-01-08 20:37 Walter F.J. Mueller
2017-01-08 21:12 ` Larry McVoy
2017-01-08 21:26   ` Dave Horsfall
2017-01-08 21:54 ` Kay Parker   
2017-01-08 23:14 ` Adam Sampson

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