From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id d0686e41 for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2018 07:53:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 8775BA1DDA; Thu, 27 Sep 2018 17:53:13 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B8D09E99B; Thu, 27 Sep 2018 17:53:00 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 132E89E99B; Thu, 27 Sep 2018 17:52:57 +1000 (AEST) Received: from bagheera.alchemistowl.org (bagheera.alchemistowl.org [185.15.93.23]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CB6E59E998 for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2018 17:52:55 +1000 (AEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at bagheera.alchemistowl.org Received: from f.1.2.1.2.0.a.2.static.wline.lns.sme.cust.swisscom.ch (f.1.2.1.2.0.a.2.static.wline.lns.sme.cust.swisscom.ch [IPv6:2a02:121f:224:10:146c:e481:9dd0:770f] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by bagheera.alchemistowl.org (8.16.0.21/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id w8R7qqiS027722 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 27 Sep 2018 07:52:53 GMT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) From: Arrigo Triulzi In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 09:52:51 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <93A6E956-D376-409D-995A-785534D7E5D0@alchemistowl.org> References: To: Paul Ruizendaal X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Subject: Re: [TUHS] SPARC is CRAPS spelled backwards. X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On 27 Sep 2018, at 09:35, Paul Ruizendaal wrote: >> Did the 5150 have a UNIX available anywhere near its launch date? I = know >> that it had DOS, CP/M-86, and the UCSD p-System relatively early on. = It's >> not clear to me whether Xenix ever supported the original PC; were = there >> other early porting efforts? >=20 > The first version of Venix-86 ran on the PC/XT, almost a 5150, in May = 83. It was V7 based. I think it was the first Unix on a PC. >=20 > Heinz Lycklama (who did Unix LSX and MX at Bell labs in the 70=E2=80=99s= ) did PC/IX about a year later, based on Sys III. This was marketed by = IBM. >=20 > Based on the early Xenix porting chart here = http://seefigure1.com/2014/04/15/xenixtime.html , a PC/XT version of = Xenix appeared around the same time as PC/IX. However, if the chart is = correct there may have been Xenix versions for other 8086-based machines = a year before that. Note that in this chart the =E2=80=9CXenix 2.0=E2=80=9D= and =E2=80=9CXenix 3.0=E2=80=9D labels refer to MS internal versions, = i.e. these numbers are not to be confused with the marketing labels IBM = PC Xenix 2.0 and 3.0. I am almost certain of the existence of a Unix variant for the Olivetti = M24 which was an 8086-equipped PC (The M24 was rebranded as an AT&T 6300 = if memory serves me correctly). It might have been Xenix or Venix but I = honestly cannot remember it as I certainly recall Xenix floppies & = manuals making the rounds later on 286s in Italy but I only faintly = recall the M24 Unix. Arrigo