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[108.20.187.173]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p42sm8550293qte.8.2018.12.10.17.21.07 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 10 Dec 2018 17:21:07 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) From: Clem cole X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (16B92) In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2018 20:21:06 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <940B149F-923C-4D12-B5D7-698DEA2E4F1F@ccc.com> References: To: Jacob Ritorto Subject: Re: [TUHS] 2.9bsd with networking on 18-bit possible? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" It is going to be very difficult. If this is real HW you might try practici= ng configuration using simh. It will be faster and easy to play with unt= il you have the config that meets your needs. That said for telnet a= nd ftp you are going to need tcp.=20 Btw. I might suggest setting up and Arduino, an RPi or the like and connect= via serial ports to the 11. That way you might not need networking. =20 Sent from my PDP-7 Running UNIX V0 expect things to be almost but not quite.= =20 > On Dec 10, 2018, at 5:05 PM, Jacob Ritorto wrote= : >=20 > Hi, > I have an 11/45 I'm hoping will be running soon. =20 >=20 > I'd like to run 2.9BSD on it because it's the most highly functional syste= m I know of that has "official hopes" to fit on such a restrictive machine. >=20 > I've heard that it's really unlikely / tough to get a kernel built that'l= l run tcp (I care mostly about ftp and telnet) on such a small-memory-footpr= int machine. Is this true? =20 >=20 > Would anyone be willing to do a quick mentoring / working session with me t= o get me up to speed with the constraints I'm facing here and possibly give m= e a jump on making adjustments to build such a kernel if possible? >=20 > thx > jake >=20 > P.S. There's kind of an implied challenge in the 2.11bsd setup docs, menti= oning that "2.11BSD would probably only require a moderate amount of squeezi= ng to fit on machines with less memory, but it would also be very unhappy ab= out the prospect." =20 >=20 > I'm sure it's been attempted before, but would anyone be up to the challen= ge of trying to get that going with networking on an 18-bit-address-space pd= p11? >=20