From mboxrd@z Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
From: dscherrer@solar.stanford.edu (Deborah Scherrer)
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2017 19:10:27 -0800
Subject: [TUHS] ARPAnet now 4 nodes
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I don't know about the historical record.  But everything I said is 
true, based on my own personal experience.
Why would I misrepresent?   I was there, this happened.  If people 
didn't write it down, I don't know why.
D

On 12/4/17 6:52 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote:
>      > From: Deborah Scherrer <dscherrer at solar.stanford.edu>
>
>      >  A lot of the TCP/IP development was done at the Lab.
>
> I think this is incorrect. The "Birth of the Internet" plaque:
>
>    http://ana-3.lcs.mit.edu/~jnc/history/BirthInternetL.jpg
>
> mentions a number of organizations, but not UCB.
>
> Also, if you look at early TCP/IP Meeting Notes, which list all the meeting
> attendees, e.g.:
>
>    http://www.postel.org/ien/txt/ien3.txt
>    http://www.postel.org/ien/txt/ien121.txt
>    http://www.postel.org/ien/txt/ien134.txt
>    http://www.postel.org/ien/txt/ien121.txt
>    http://www.postel.org/ien/txt/ien160.txt
>    http://www.postel.org/ien/txt/ien175.txt
>
> (plus a bunch more only available in PDF form here:
>
>    http://www.postel.org/ien/pdf
>    
> which I couldn't be bothered to look at, since they are huge scans which take
> a while to download - see the IEN Index for the numbers) you won't find anyone
> from UCB listed in any of them.
>
> Berkeley did produce a now-common _implementation_ of TCP/IP, it's true, but
> it had nothing to do with the "development" of TCP/IP.
>
> 	Noel