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[98.21.79.44]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e129sm9961510qkf.85.2018.11.18.18.59.52 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 18 Nov 2018 18:59:52 -0800 (PST) To: Grant Taylor , tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org References: <26292231.693.1542401951390.JavaMail.root@zimbraanteil> <75c6879f-0701-0812-928c-9df8eea0c609@telegraphics.com.au> From: Chet Ramey Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=chet.ramey@case.edu; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= xsDiBEEOsGwRBACFa0A1oa71HSZLWxAx0svXzhOZNQZOzqHmSuGOG92jIpQpr8DpvgRh40Yp AwdcXb8QG1J5yGAKeevNE1zCFaA725vGSdHUyypHouV0xoWwukYO6qlyyX+2BZU+okBUqoWQ koWxiYaCSfzB2Ln7pmdys1fJhcgBKf3VjWCjd2XJTwCgoFJOwyBFJdugjfwjSoRSwDOIMf0D /iQKqlWhIO1LGpMrGX0il0/x4zj0NAcSwAk7LaPZbN4UPjn5pqGEHBlf1+xDDQCkAoZ/VqES GZragl4VqJfxBr29Ag0UDvNbUbXoxQsARdero1M8GiAIRc50hj7HXFoERwenbNDJL86GPLAQ OTGOCa4W2o29nFfFjQrsrrYHzVtyA/9oyKvTeEMJ7NA3VJdWcmn7gOu0FxEmSNhSoV1T4vP2 1Wf7f5niCCRKQLNyUy0wEApQi4tSysdz+AbgAc0b/bHYVzIf2uO2lIEZQNNt+3g2bmXgloWm W5fsm/di50Gm1l1Na63d3RZ00SeFQos6WEwLUHEB0yp6KXluXLLIZitEJM0aQ2hldCBSYW1l eSA8Y2hldEBjd3J1LmVkdT7CYQQTEQIAIQIbAwYLCQgHAwIDFQIDAxYCAQIeAQIXgAUCQ+La kQIZAQAKCRC7WGnwZOp0q9rGAJ4sRGLmlF8klZTH75z7jyQScpU6aACeNMahjWIhumt4u96d 9mdMJqlabVnOwE0EQQ6wbxAEAJCukwDigRDPhAuI+lf+6P64lWanIFOXIndqhvU13cDbQ/Wt 5LwPzm2QTvd7F+fcHOgZ8KOFScbDpjJaRqwIybMTcIN0B2pBLX/C10W1aY+cUrXZgXUGVISE MmpaP9v02auToo7XXVEHC+XLO9IU7/xaU98FL69l6/K4xeNSBRM/AAMHA/wNAmRBpcyK0+Vg gZ5esQaIP/LyolAm2qwcmrd3dZi+g24s7yjV0EUwvRP7xHRDQFgkAo6++QbuecU/J90lxrVn QwucZmfz9zgWDkT/MpfB/CNRSKLFjhYq2yHmHWT6vEjw9Ry/hF6Pc0oh1a62USdfaKAiim0n VxxQmPmiRvtCmcJJBBgRAgAJBQJBDrBvAhsMAAoJELtYafBk6nSr43AAn2ZZFQg8Gs/zUzvX Mt7evaFqVTzcAJ0cHtKpP1i/4H4R9+OsYeQdxxWxTQ== Organization: ITS, Case Western Reserve University Message-ID: <96209d8f-bc2f-fce0-a53c-411f564f2be4@case.edu> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 21:59:51 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Junkmail-Status: score=9/90, host=mpv4-2015.case.edu X-Junkmail-PrAS-Raw: score=9/90, refid=2.7.2:2018.11.19.22417:17:9.975, ip=, rules=__YOUTUBE_RCVD, __X_GOOGLE_DKIM_SIGNATURE, __HAS_REPLYTO, __HAS_CC_HDR, __SUBJ_REPLY, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __SUBJ_ALPHA_END, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __TO_NAME, __TO_NAME_DIFF_FROM_ACC, __REFERENCES, __HAS_FROM, FROM_EDU_TLD, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, DATE_TZ_NA, __USER_AGENT, __MOZILLA_USER_AGENT, __MIME_VERSION, __IN_REP_TO, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __CTE, __REPLYTO_SAMEAS_FROM_ADDY, __REPLYTO_SAMEAS_FROM_ACC, __FROM_DOMAIN_IN_ANY_CC1, __FROM_DOMAIN_IN_ANY_CC2, __TO_IN_SUBJECT2, __REPLYTO_SAMEAS_FROM_DOMAIN, __ANY_URI, __URI_WITH_PATH, __URI_NO_WWW, __CP_URI_IN_BODY, __SUBJ_ALPHA_NEGATE, __URI_IN_BODY, __URI_NOT_IMG, __FORWARDED_MSG, __NO_HTML_TAG_RAW, BODY_SIZE_700_799, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, __MIME_TEXT_P1, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY, __URI_NS, HTML_00_01, HTML_00_10, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS, IN_REP_TO, MSG_THREAD, [TRUNCATED], so=2010-03-03 19:42:08, dmn=2016-08-03-0138 X-Mirapoint-Virus-RAPID-Raw: score=unknown(0), refid=str=0001.0A020208.5BF2272B.002A,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0, ip=98.21.79.44, so=2016-11-06 16:00:04, dmn=2011-05-27 18:58:46 X-Mirapoint-Loop-Id: 52b7c8c87d436ec9bc61f2ecb590df01 Subject: Re: [TUHS] man-page style X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: chet.ramey@case.edu Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On 11/16/18 4:29 PM, Grant Taylor via TUHS wrote: > On 11/16/2018 02:24 PM, Toby Thain wrote: >> `info` and `man` solve two different problems, regardless of one's >> opinion of the interface to the former (which can be learned, it's no >> more arcane than `vi`). > > I feel like the man vs info war (IMHO it's a war) on Linux has gone too > far.  Far enough that there are some tools that have between woefully > inadequate man pages to missing man pages in favor of info documentation. Agreed. That's why I supply both, with much the same content. -- ``The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne.'' - Chaucer ``Ars longa, vita brevis'' - Hippocrates Chet Ramey, UTech, CWRU chet@case.edu http://tiswww.cwru.edu/~chet/