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From: Arthur Krewat <krewat@kilonet.net>
To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org
Subject: Re: [TUHS] Someone wants to use an exabyte
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 12:40:22 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <96b55e5e-4b05-f7b7-c2ae-efdae7c18b2f@kilonet.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0a6fb097-fe79-1633-0205-1c45f0a56953@bitsavers.org>

A few years back, I decided to go through my stack of 8mm 
Exabyte-written tapes... An early Exabyte 8200 2GB Exabyte drive was 
useless. A 2/5G drive worked.

There were errors on one or two tapes. But each and every one was an 
analog 8mm video tape, not a real data tape. And I was able to splice 
the backup set enough so that whatever it was written with would be 
happy enough to restore the data once pieced back together. A mix of 
tar, and ufsbackup for the most part.

During this process, I bought an Exabyte Mammoth off eBay - didn't use 
it much, but it read those old tapes just fine.

I was able to recover scads of personal stuff that I already had copies 
of, along with a few dumps of the USENET systems I was using to serve as 
a 3-modem BBS for USENET. And yes, sometimes, I go back into old backup 
tapes to recover data I already have on disk. I hate bit-rot, I do 
whatever I can to mitigate it.

art k.

PS: DAT 4mm tape drives, especially whatever Sun was using, were awful. 
Around 50% of them I dealt with all got into a mode within the first 
year where they would accept a tape, and just kick it back out right 
away. Because they were under support, they were just replaced, so I 
never looked into it hardware-wise.



On 11/25/2019 12:07 PM, Al Kossow wrote:
>
> On 11/24/19 7:24 PM, Larry McVoy wrote:
>> So that sounds like a different problem.  People correct me if I'm
>> wrong but the exabyte drives seemed to have a head alignment problem.
> They are 8mm helical-head drives. they wouldn't go out of alignment by
> bumping them, the worse would be the tape would lose tension if you
> smacked the tensioning arms hard enough
>
> They do have a lot of rubber parts inside.
> Rollers crack and belts go soft. I have several dozen dead EX8200s from that.
>
> I have a whole box of 8mm backup tapes that just came in, and a small
> number of working drives. The Linux software I wrote to do 9 track tape recovery
> from a SCSI 9 track drive works just fine on an Exabyte.
>
> And I'm not offering to read Jason's mystery reels.
>
>
>
>
>
>


  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-25 17:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-24 22:39 Richard Salz
2019-11-24 22:50 ` Jim Capp
2019-11-24 22:52 ` Larry McVoy
2019-11-24 22:58   ` Rico Pajarola
2019-11-24 23:45     ` Clem Cole
2019-11-25  1:41   ` Dave Horsfall
2019-11-25  1:42     ` George Michaelson
2019-11-25  3:24       ` Larry McVoy
2019-11-25 17:07         ` Al Kossow
2019-11-25 17:40           ` Arthur Krewat [this message]
2019-11-25 17:45             ` Larry McVoy
2019-11-25 17:49               ` Jon Steinhart
2019-11-25 18:34               ` Arthur Krewat
2019-11-25 21:08                 ` John P. Linderman
2019-11-25 21:11                   ` ron
2019-11-25 21:30                     ` John P. Linderman
2019-11-25 21:38               ` Dave Horsfall
2019-11-25 18:29           ` Warner Losh
2019-11-25  3:29       ` Dave Horsfall
2019-11-25  3:34         ` [TUHS] Someone wants to use an exabyte [ really bulk erasing ] Jon Steinhart
2019-11-25  3:59           ` William Pechter
2019-11-25 15:25             ` Clem Cole
2019-11-25 17:13               ` Al Kossow
2019-11-25  4:53           ` Dave Horsfall
2019-11-25  3:36         ` [TUHS] Someone wants to use an exabyte Larry McVoy
2019-11-25 22:34           ` Dave Horsfall
2019-11-26  1:38             ` Lawrence Stewart
2019-11-25 22:46           ` Dennis Boone
2019-11-25 22:57           ` Henry Bent
2019-11-27 19:31   ` John Foust
2019-11-27 20:56     ` Arthur Krewat
2019-11-27 21:25       ` Dave Horsfall
2019-11-25 18:12 Norman Wilson

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