From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net (Grant Taylor) Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2017 20:27:09 -0600 Subject: [TUHS] X and NeWS history (long) In-Reply-To: <70d56443-a98b-08bd-9731-1ba91336f203@kilonet.net> References: <201709111649.v8BGnGTx005812@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <20170911230910.GH7819@mcvoy.com> <201709120738.v8C7ckOF007026@freefriends.org> <201709121535.v8CFZOuB015695@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <201709122211.v8CMB3pf029787@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <6C032165-08F5-47CA-A30A-AD95E69996FE@bitblocks.com> <70d56443-a98b-08bd-9731-1ba91336f203@kilonet.net> Message-ID: <97471f48-bd2d-9f22-977f-7bf417ad4e4c@tnetconsulting.net> On 09/12/2017 07:42 PM, Arthur Krewat wrote: > Try installing Oracle products on UNIX/Linux without X. Better yet, try > doing it on a remote machine on the other side of the world. Ouch! Doing it half way across the US was bad enough. I'd hate to experience half way around the world. > While KVMs like a Dell DRAC or Sun LOM, and virtualization consoles help > a lot, it's nice to be able to "ssh -X" to a remote machine and run that > installer back to my local VNC server. (Don't forget the -Y to forward authentication. ;-) I completely agree. Also, I believe that graphic console has a completely different security exposure compared to allowing someone to use X remotely. (Via ssh forwarding or more traditionally across the network.) > If I had a decent X windows implementation locally, I'd use that instead > of VNC. I actually ended up going the other way. X11 is nice when it works. However, I found that I spent a LOT of time waiting on X11 to chat back and forth. Comparatively VNC is (IMHO) a lot better at lower bandwidth and / or higher latency. Also, running Xvnc (server) on the remote system allows you to (dis)connect the VNC client at will. Same advantages as screen / tmux, but for X11. > X had it's issues. But it's still alive and well - maybe because of Java ;) I personally look fondly on the days when you could set the DISPLAY variable and launch your GUI application. -- Grant. . . . unix || die -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 3717 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature URL: