From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RDNS_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: (qmail 8037 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2020 12:32:40 -0000 Received-SPF: pass (minnie.tuhs.org: domain of minnie.tuhs.org designates 45.79.103.53 as permitted sender) receiver=inbox.vuxu.org; client-ip=45.79.103.53 envelope-from= Received: from unknown (HELO minnie.tuhs.org) (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTP; 16 Mar 2020 12:32:40 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id D14959BD50; Mon, 16 Mar 2020 22:32:36 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50D009BB7D; Mon, 16 Mar 2020 22:32:03 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 91E2E9BB7D; Mon, 16 Mar 2020 22:32:00 +1000 (AEST) Received: from lb2-smtp-cloud9.xs4all.net (lb2-smtp-cloud9.xs4all.net [194.109.24.26]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E469A9BB61 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2020 22:31:58 +1000 (AEST) Received: from amys-imac.fritz.box ([80.101.112.122]) by smtp-cloud9.xs4all.net with ESMTPA id DouQj2Thm9Im2DouSj3PAc; Mon, 16 Mar 2020 13:31:56 +0100 From: Paul Ruizendaal Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_72008B9D-9116-4A27-84AF-7AA7B4C4AD67" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.0 \(3608.60.0.2.5\)) Message-Id: <98DC6210-A6ED-4E51-8EF8-085CB553D966@planet.nl> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2020 13:31:54 +0100 To: TUHS main list X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.60.0.2.5) X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfGjdYAaMBt1CY8JBllqFvzuNMD3MEzvlkRPgn39PVo5RK21FpDcWnGwZj6ZrSyJSB+RJhevGD9WvvYr6euG7+F303+AzvE2td/jNY2Dg49x05JprLnO8 qzgSW/k+SYKQyOyFWSOqFGzKhgC/OV5sF9STO1RLCCuae2xengYKewES Subject: [TUHS] Unix 8th / 9th edition IPC paper X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --Apple-Mail=_72008B9D-9116-4A27-84AF-7AA7B4C4AD67 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 There is an interesting paper that Dennis Ritchie and Dave Presotto = wrote, =E2=80=9CInterprocess Communication in the Ninth Edition Unix = System=E2=80=9D (https://www.bell-labs.com/usr/dmr/www/ipcpaper.html = ). This appears to be an update of a paper that they wrote in 1985, = =E2=80=9CInterprocess Communication in the Eighth Edition Unix = System=E2=80=9D. This earlier paper is hard to find. Anybody on this list who has it on hand?= --Apple-Mail=_72008B9D-9116-4A27-84AF-7AA7B4C4AD67 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8

There is an interesting paper that Dennis Ritchie and Dave = Presotto wrote, =E2=80=9CInterprocess Communication in the Ninth Edition = Unix System=E2=80=9D (https://www.bell-labs.com/usr/dmr/www/ipcpaper.html).

This appears to be = an update of a paper that they wrote in 1985, =E2=80=9CInterprocess = Communication in the Eighth Edition Unix System=E2=80=9D. This earlier = paper is hard to find.

Anybody on this list who has it on hand?

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This > earlier paper is hard to find. > > Anybody on this list who has it on hand? It's supposed to be in the proceedings of the June, 1985 Usenix conference. If anyone has a hard copy, and the full paper is in there, it should be scannable. -- ``The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne.'' - Chaucer ``Ars longa, vita brevis'' - Hippocrates Chet Ramey, UTech, CWRU chet@case.edu http://tiswww.cwru.edu/~chet/ From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.5 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RDNS_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: (qmail 22845 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2020 14:42:28 -0000 Received-SPF: pass (minnie.tuhs.org: domain of minnie.tuhs.org designates 45.79.103.53 as permitted sender) receiver=inbox.vuxu.org; client-ip=45.79.103.53 envelope-from= Received: from unknown (HELO minnie.tuhs.org) (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTP; 16 Mar 2020 14:42:28 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id F09519D756; Tue, 17 Mar 2020 00:42:22 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C86FA9BB7D; Tue, 17 Mar 2020 00:41:32 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=ccc.com header.i=@ccc.com header.b="gMbtlFex"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id CCB619BB61; Tue, 17 Mar 2020 00:41:24 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qv1-f43.google.com (mail-qv1-f43.google.com [209.85.219.43]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0C5DC9BB7D for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2020 00:41:24 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qv1-f43.google.com with SMTP id n1so5160723qvz.4 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2020 07:41:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=AT4ntjAEgcNCh97Nn0SeIHuMdalWP+tP2dgIh1uFKG4=; b=gMbtlFexXagxbotC11L1qFFDVEZuRlR3MagK4e+fq4YF6ISknArkXngKi8FXmqrPts VFBDn7pYUXLv18eAqLkwiRQzn0o1IkuQtM8J/ZnURaVbtUR02K4EBDv0suvTEg6BjBz4 e5pppuqtHkUc0B3Dn2sDeeRI5SDZQjKua+SGg= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=AT4ntjAEgcNCh97Nn0SeIHuMdalWP+tP2dgIh1uFKG4=; b=Ir4TbLp4LQLTiWBkKdWRr9LqorZtcQHGWB7fsagsm0tPkGXK6/eMvGFhB2wILi8xmD PLuUiBO57PnGXAPNZuDG2GVG+ZdsMdizwtS9/UYEFWi9vilThmA3muVaA6x4pV3qRvjP InDr8uWUouzbnBzcJqFwUXhEDa+qjKtmp9wfshNoHgrAMMGt7S1Isf849pcMbOUi32N8 44TOCzksiGtEzzGogIaW59ovqyLB8qToa9dP2dopS8oDTui118ZqlXfxKlBa4qOqAG3E +GycIpAJwgudDzA/JNGX9BXTCqQ3jPUZIqOOtRqgloWnB9lGcO8pNEgMV2dRgWTisEjo V0YA== X-Gm-Message-State: ANhLgQ2GcpXx9AX0PhAvih7iLnikFeo6iO3nQHxH4ad62RK2/1pjV65I HZNg0rj2Z+Q7uhK7vtNGq/+hgFlFGZ6Cvsv+qVv/xiVovjI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADFU+vvnGsWabmd5AVYziTL6zkWLtcVzC56UaHDX5PWpMa/AX7z2CLyV8xHGWhlF1hTMLOm/OGnrlscRRJJeT1kzrA0= X-Received: by 2002:ad4:5909:: with SMTP id ez9mr134618qvb.56.1584369682813; Mon, 16 Mar 2020 07:41:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <98DC6210-A6ED-4E51-8EF8-085CB553D966@planet.nl>

In-Reply-To: From: Clem Cole Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2020 10:40:54 -0400 Message-ID: To: TUHS main list Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000231fd505a0f9d062" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Unix 8th / 9th edition IPC paper X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000231fd505a0f9d062 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I sent it off list to Chet and Paul but it's too big for Warren's reflector. I'll work with him to get it separately. If anyone else wants it before, please let me know off list. Clem On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 10:37 AM Clem Cole wrote: > Here you go... > > Warren - Would please be able to add to the docs/paper directories... > USENIX Summer 1985 June 11-14 > --000000000000231fd505a0f9d062 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I sent it off list to Chet and Paul bu= t it's too big for Warren's reflector.=C2=A0 I'll work with him= to get it separately.=C2=A0 If anyone else wants it before, please let me = know off list.

Clem

On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 10:37= AM Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com> wr= ote:

Here you go...<= /div>

Warren - Would please be ab= le to add to the docs/paper directories...=C2=A0 USENIX Summer 1985 June 11= -14

--000000000000231fd505a0f9d062-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 29898 invoked from network); 24 Jun 2020 14:39:56 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 24 Jun 2020 14:39:56 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id E0961945B4; Thu, 25 Jun 2020 00:39:52 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2662B9459A; Thu, 25 Jun 2020 00:39:29 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="GeqRzA87"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 149179459A; Thu, 25 Jun 2020 00:39:26 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-lf1-f54.google.com (mail-lf1-f54.google.com [209.85.167.54]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1925794599 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2020 00:39:25 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-lf1-f54.google.com with SMTP id o4so1407722lfi.7 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2020 07:39:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to:mail-followup-to :references:mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=RBkMbQ84e6OBD0B8sfR9F/Pw7ytzuDxzZD6QwTKhSwQ=; b=GeqRzA87MZUntWp/7jmkejxCTPK6sDCwOcIiBJ3Py4LlnptUtQgnqRW4Xkibb10krO ismDk916/bcPP7d4jvQuRLChB1LAGdDP8YjjaVr0yBIAL7l7IB0rkoCwNob2wuQui1yP CUZA4Gu9KkINxICZT6caSQ0pF//iQX9APGQ0CLbq3oXLJ4QhII1piTN6+U51UQH9woDi lridYkqCe3y6UxZPujcYEi3mqcvAoyvF9xAHJCNAa/El4G63nbS59sSRAcIG9M6yY7d+ rhM1+WrRQAgmN00Id7kwZuWBcaNBUXPoa2MLm1E3zPTK+RCqcDzVJ1rlPSJS5W9s0kbC y9/w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=RBkMbQ84e6OBD0B8sfR9F/Pw7ytzuDxzZD6QwTKhSwQ=; b=o7gt6aIvfdCtMAdBysTd06n+hkvPSH3igPzgWAiVZnsCwvSXGh/0G46jDlbBx6Pwan MknD+OIizqEfEDiCEGUutIv6Vjs9K6b4A02gsQdL63MJhID/mvIYUlGsg+86a+Xh26ak KNuN5u+agBSFxp+/biSLLmPWOH+Xb/9WdSrTpI8v5r65kjhPTkcf18m5I6x5ufwV99oR vGtqoeozGvnYCtlKYYuzOR1MDSfQ7ZYWKpdH4URTu3qWDZjn+dQa6PZr3r6DC7ntUrkT +6QBQUlDDrKCN7fs0/kfMq5xniu+HrrGB+64NzMGq+seX+SDa1K254P9O0ixFjoGv39O ezdg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530w6o8KFK6G8nJGFCYbhFxJ6BqbZ2FlVRgoyZBpLlV0UP5Iqo/p wsMhwltyVL6ylcw6T9m1loVbOZWf8PE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxropLjpaBcw7YG6PGlyGett9s63McDLVXT6v2BRz+nMAyKGvs9Y/wTUGaJFdtDP+HhOP1kVQ== X-Received: by 2002:ac2:5a4b:: with SMTP id r11mr15639720lfn.39.1593009563314; Wed, 24 Jun 2020 07:39:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sartre.localdomain (91-157-121-9.elisa-laajakaista.fi. [91.157.121.9]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 4sm4172371ljq.34.2020.06.24.07.39.22 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 24 Jun 2020 07:39:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by sartre.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EED581C0E08; Wed, 24 Jun 2020 17:39:20 +0300 (EEST) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2020 17:39:20 +0300 From: Jukka Ruohonen To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org Message-ID: <20200624143920.GA8127@sartre> Mail-Followup-To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org References: <98DC6210-A6ED-4E51-8EF8-085CB553D966@planet.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <98DC6210-A6ED-4E51-8EF8-085CB553D966@planet.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.13.5 (2020-03-28) Subject: [TUHS] About the history of cfree() X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: jruohonen@iki.fi Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Hello, does anyone remember details on how the cfree() function ended to of various systems? >From the only available documentation I could easily find [1], I'd reckon it came from SCO's malloc implementation that tried to conform to Intel's i386 iBCS. But almost all other systems wrapped it to free(). Interestingly, it seems that also SunOS 4.0 (1988) used the free()-wrapper. So was the 3-parameter cfree() only used in SCO XENIX 386 (1987) and the like [2]? Anyways, a small but interesting detail, and I suppose a good example on the developments that led to ANSI C. - Jukka [1] https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man3/cfree.3.html [2] https://www.landley.net/history/mirror/unix/scohistory.html