From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: b4@gewt.net (Cory Smelosky) Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2016 22:38:27 -0700 Subject: [TUHS] BSD/v8 TCP/IP (was Shell control through external commands) In-Reply-To: References: <20160912013110.ECB3B4422E@lignose.oclsc.org> <20160912044432.GA74856@eureka.lemis.com> Message-ID: <9E04568D-9E90-4A3F-B584-C5A16871DAE0@gewt.net> Do any copies of 8th Edition exist anywhere? ;) That's one way to check! Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 11, 2016, at 22:24, Warner Losh wrote: > >> On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 10:44 PM, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >>> On Sunday, 11 September 2016 at 21:31:10 -0400, Norman Wilson wrote: >>> >>> -- Adopt 4.1c BSD kernel >>> ... >>> >>> I don't think the BSD kernel when adopted had much, if any, >>> of sockets, Berkeley's TCP/IP, McKusick's FFS; if it did, >>> they were excised. >>> >>> ... >>> >>> TCP/IP support didn't show up until later, I think summer 1985, >>> though it might have been a year later. >> >> I'm confused. 4.1c has gone down in history as the first version with >> Internet code, and looking at the sources (from mckusick's CD set), I >> see the network files in /sys/netinet with names very reminiscent of >> current FreeBSD file names. The files have timestamps between >> November 1982 and May 1983. Why should they have been removed? I >> would have thought that exactly this functionality would have been the >> reason why you adopted 4.1c. >> >> Similarly, it also included FFS and (not surprisingly sockets. >> >> I checked further back, but unfortunately the previous version on the >> CDs is 4.1a, and it has no kernel code. > > I don't think they are talking about BSD4.1a having these things, but > rather Research Unix Edition 8 having these things. Bell labs didn't > integrate them until later. I recall reading articles at the time (1983 > or 1984) that they had their own notion of what networking to use > that wasn't TCP/IP due to some perceived failings of TCP/IP that > they fixed with their stuff. I recall that I read it in the library in > high school. Wish I'd forgotten that and recalled what the network > protocol was they implemented instead... > > Warner -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: