From: "Michael Kjörling" <michael@kjorling.se>
To: tuhs@tuhs.org
Subject: Re: [TUHS] v7 K&R C
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2020 20:11:31 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9b9e01a6-fc1a-48a3-879c-665eb5a74205@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200425180357.A004918C0B6@mercury.lcs.mit.edu>
On 25 Apr 2020 14:03 -0400, from jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Noel Chiappa):
> Then again, down that road you find a lot of modern code, where a programmer
> writes something that is e.g. horribly inefficient and slow, precisely because
> they are so divorced from the low-level of what the code they wrote turns into...
...and then there's an exceptionally complicated CPU execution
pipeline in which code is rearranged to try to allow the CPU to
execute it as fast as possible while preserving "observable" behavior.
As we know, down that road lies... security vulnerabilities.
That said, I agree; I don't know how many times I've nearly headdesked
coming across code that looks like someone typed the first thing that
entered their mind, instead of actually thinking the problem through
first and _then_ coding a solution. I'm almost certainly not innocent
there myself, either, although I do try.
--
Michael Kjörling • https://michael.kjorling.se • michael@kjorling.se
“Remember when, on the Internet, nobody cared that you were a dog?”
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Thread overview: 141+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-04-25 13:11 Noel Chiappa
2020-04-25 13:18 ` Rob Pike
2020-04-25 14:57 ` Warner Losh
2020-04-25 16:13 ` [TUHS] C and C++ Regrets ron
2020-04-25 18:03 ` [TUHS] v7 K&R C Noel Chiappa
2020-04-25 20:11 ` Michael Kjörling [this message]
2020-04-25 21:27 ` Brian L. Stuart
2020-04-26 0:07 ` emanuel stiebler
2020-04-26 0:54 ` Rob Pike
2020-04-26 19:37 ` Derek Fawcus
2020-04-26 20:10 ` Derek Fawcus
2020-04-26 21:59 ` Rich Morin
2020-04-26 22:38 ` Noel Hunt
2020-04-26 23:57 ` Nemo Nusquam
2020-04-27 3:38 ` Rob Pike
2020-04-25 13:35 ` Hellwig Geisse
2020-04-25 13:59 ` Richard Salz
2020-04-25 19:01 ` Brian L. Stuart
2020-04-25 20:07 ` Michael Kjörling
2020-04-25 21:34 ` Brian L. Stuart
2020-04-26 6:40 ` arnold
2020-04-27 18:47 ` [TUHS] s-for-v7, was " Adam Thornton
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-05-19 12:29 [TUHS] " Noel Chiappa
2020-05-19 2:29 Doug McIlroy
2020-05-19 3:20 ` Steve Nickolas
2020-05-18 14:33 Doug McIlroy
2020-05-18 13:58 Doug McIlroy
2020-05-16 18:45 Richard Tobin
2020-05-16 21:55 ` Ronald Natalie
2020-05-16 0:15 Nelson H. F. Beebe
2020-05-16 0:28 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2020-05-16 1:52 ` Warner Losh
2020-05-16 16:31 ` Paul Winalski
2020-05-16 20:35 ` Brad Spencer
2020-05-16 20:37 ` Warner Losh
2020-05-18 12:25 ` Tony Finch
2020-05-15 21:31 Richard Tobin
2020-05-15 21:53 ` Steve Nickolas
2020-05-15 22:33 ` ron
2020-05-15 23:34 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2020-05-16 1:26 ` Larry McVoy
2020-05-16 21:59 ` Ronald Natalie
2020-05-16 23:26 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2020-05-17 16:24 ` Paul Winalski
2020-05-17 16:29 ` ron
2020-05-17 16:38 ` Paul Winalski
2020-05-17 20:08 ` Clem Cole
2020-05-18 8:46 ` Peter Jeremy
2020-05-19 7:41 ` Dave Horsfall
2020-05-18 12:04 ` Tony Finch
2020-05-18 13:10 ` Clem Cole
2020-05-18 15:13 ` Rich Morin
2020-05-18 15:51 ` Brantley Coile
2020-05-18 16:11 ` Dan Cross
2020-05-18 21:18 ` ron
2020-05-17 16:10 ` Derek Fawcus
2020-05-17 16:14 ` ron
2020-05-15 20:34 Doug McIlroy
2020-05-15 20:40 ` Warner Losh
2020-05-14 18:41 Doug McIlroy
2020-05-14 18:45 ` Richard Salz
2020-05-14 20:54 ` Clem Cole
2020-05-15 2:44 ` Rob Pike
2020-05-15 3:57 ` Rich Morin
2020-05-15 7:55 ` Dr Iain Maoileoin
2020-05-15 15:01 ` Larry McVoy
2020-05-15 15:36 ` John P. Linderman
2020-05-15 20:01 ` ron
2020-05-15 20:03 ` Larry McVoy
2020-05-15 20:05 ` Clem Cole
2020-05-15 20:18 ` ron
2020-05-15 20:24 ` Clem Cole
2020-05-16 0:57 ` Brantley Coile
2020-05-16 16:14 ` Dan Cross
2020-05-15 20:56 ` Steve Nickolas
2020-05-16 0:31 ` Peter Jeremy
2020-05-16 8:30 ` Steve Nickolas
2020-05-16 0:43 ` John P. Linderman
2020-05-16 16:28 ` Paul Winalski
2020-05-16 17:39 ` Warner Losh
2020-05-19 19:45 ` Peter Pentchev
2020-05-20 3:52 ` Rich Morin
2020-05-21 15:06 ` Dave Horsfall
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2020-05-14 3:02 ` Paul McJones
2020-05-14 17:08 ` Paul Winalski
2020-05-14 17:58 ` Clem Cole
2020-04-27 17:45 Noel Chiappa
2020-04-27 17:56 ` Richard Salz
2020-04-27 18:02 ` Brantley Coile
2020-04-27 18:47 ` Derek Fawcus
2020-04-25 19:41 Noel Chiappa
2020-04-25 20:27 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2020-04-25 1:59 Adam Thornton
2020-04-25 2:37 ` Charles Anthony
2020-04-25 2:47 ` Adam Thornton
2020-04-25 2:51 ` Rob Pike
2020-04-25 2:54 ` Rob Pike
2020-04-25 3:04 ` Larry McVoy
2020-04-25 3:30 ` Clem Cole
2020-04-25 3:43 ` Larry McVoy
2020-04-25 3:54 ` Jon Steinhart
2020-04-25 11:44 ` Michael Kjörling
2020-04-25 13:17 ` Dan Cross
2020-05-11 0:28 ` scj
2020-05-11 0:32 ` Rob Pike
2020-05-11 0:57 ` Larry McVoy
2020-05-11 17:32 ` Greg A. Woods
2020-05-11 18:25 ` Paul Winalski
2020-05-11 18:37 ` Clem Cole
2020-05-11 19:12 ` Paul Winalski
2020-05-11 19:57 ` joe mcguckin
2020-05-11 20:25 ` Larry McVoy
2020-05-12 17:23 ` Paul Winalski
2020-05-12 17:35 ` ron
2020-05-12 17:42 ` Larry McVoy
2020-05-12 18:36 ` Paul Winalski
2020-05-13 23:36 ` Dave Horsfall
2020-05-14 0:42 ` John P. Linderman
2020-05-14 2:44 ` Rich Morin
2020-05-14 3:09 ` Charles Anthony
2020-05-14 12:27 ` ron
2020-05-14 12:27 ` ron
2020-05-14 12:27 ` ron
2020-05-14 7:38 ` Dave Horsfall
2020-05-14 12:25 ` ron
2020-05-14 17:13 ` Paul Winalski
2020-05-14 17:21 ` Larry McVoy
2020-05-17 16:34 ` Derek Fawcus
2020-05-14 4:21 ` Greg A. Woods
2020-05-14 4:40 ` Warner Losh
2020-05-14 17:32 ` Larry McVoy
2020-05-14 22:32 ` Tony Finch
2020-05-16 23:53 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2020-05-17 0:35 ` Larry McVoy
2020-05-11 18:37 ` Larry McVoy
2020-05-11 2:08 ` Lawrence Stewart
2020-05-11 11:36 ` Michael Kjörling
2020-04-25 3:37 ` Dave Horsfall
2020-04-27 13:19 ` Tony Finch
2020-04-25 2:50 ` Adam Thornton
2020-04-25 5:59 ` Lars Brinkhoff
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