From: Bakul Shah <bakul@iitbombay.org>
To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: [TUHS] Sockets vs Streams (was Re: forgotten versions
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2022 09:23:57 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <A25D6D40-13EB-42AC-BB0D-06C7736E2868@iitbombay.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKr6gn1sOmfBu6v1SQSh=xOCD8XOt54=kVdEt4aD2zB5houS8A@mail.gmail.com>
On Jun 16, 2022, at 4:44 PM, George Michaelson <ggm@algebras.org> wrote:
>
> Sockets (which btw, totally SUCK PUS) were coded into things
> and even (YECHH) made POSIX and IETF spec status. Streams didn't stand
> a chance.
The stream abstraction is a nice (c)lean abstraction but it doesn't
quite work for things like multicast or datagrams in general. Plan9
doesn't have sockets but the way it deals with UDP is not simple either.
The complexity is in the protocols themselves. Even at layer 2 (below
the IP layer) the amount of complexity is mind boggling (though I
suppose high-speed backbone switches do all this in hardware!).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-06-17 16:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-06-16 23:06 [TUHS] " Rob Pike
2022-06-16 23:17 ` [TUHS] " Earl Baugh
2022-06-16 23:18 ` George Michaelson
2022-06-16 23:44 ` George Michaelson
2022-06-17 0:10 ` Larry McVoy
2022-06-17 16:23 ` Bakul Shah [this message]
2022-06-17 17:43 ` [TUHS] Re: Sockets vs Streams (was " Paul Winalski
2022-06-17 22:52 ` Dan Stromberg
2022-06-17 7:20 ` [TUHS] " Diomidis Spinellis
2022-06-17 7:33 ` Rob Pike
2022-06-17 8:34 ` arnold
2022-06-17 10:52 ` arnold
2022-06-18 7:05 ` Angelo Papenhoff
2022-06-19 7:50 ` Rob Pike
2022-06-19 8:17 ` Angelo Papenhoff
2022-06-19 8:53 ` Rob Pike
2022-06-19 9:02 ` Angelo Papenhoff
2022-06-19 9:14 ` arnold
2022-06-19 9:19 ` Angelo Papenhoff
2022-06-19 9:23 ` arnold
2022-06-19 11:37 ` Matthias Bruestle
2022-06-19 14:47 ` Kenneth Goodwin
2022-06-19 16:27 ` Al Kossow
2022-06-19 18:32 ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-06-19 18:38 ` Dan Cross
2022-06-21 23:56 ` Jacob Moody
2022-06-22 0:13 ` Larry McVoy
2022-06-22 0:48 ` Rob Pike
2022-06-22 1:55 ` George Michaelson
2022-06-22 2:10 ` Bakul Shah
2022-06-22 2:14 ` Jon Steinhart
2022-06-22 2:19 ` Andrew Hume
2022-06-22 2:58 ` Rob Pike
2022-06-22 3:09 ` George Michaelson
2022-06-22 2:16 ` Andrew Hume
2022-06-22 2:55 ` Brad Spencer
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