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From: sauer@technologists.com (Charles H Sauer)
Subject: [TUHS] UNIX on S/370
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2017 10:47:29 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <A29CAB563EE84AC1B159E303C578F4DA@studyvista> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAC20D2PRLxkC_g8rDeShcf=T47SED3VMf+8cJYBMQvJ1eBJjZA@mail.gmail.com>

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I was waiting for Clem to weigh in on this, since I assume he knows more about it than I do.

I wasn’t paying much attention to Unix on 370, but my impression has always been that there were multiple 370 ports. The only ones that were completed, to my knowledge, were the ESS one and AIX/370. I don’t know of the ESS one being available outside of AT&T.

I don’t know anything about the compilers used, would assume they were PCC-based, even if provided by IBM.

In 1989, when I left IBM, there were certainly plenty of 370 people inside IBM that would have understood 370 channels. I would have thought that to still be true in 1991, even with the buyout packages that encouraged people to retire. (It wasn’t until Gerstner became CEO in April 1993 that IBM abandoned the “full employment” traditions.)

What Clem says about the smaller footprint of devices rings true. There were also likely customers that wanted to run AIX alongside other VMs, just as there were customers who wanted to run MVS alongside other VMs.

Charlie

From: Clem Cole 
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2017 10:37 AM
To: Noel Chiappa 
Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society 
Subject: Re: [TUHS] UNIX on S/370



On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Noel Chiappa <jnc at mercury.lcs.mit.edu> wrote:

      
  Maybe this is my lack of knowledge of VM showing, but how did having VM help
  you over running on the bare hardware?


​As an IBM person, I would ask Charlie to answer here, but I believe the answer from the Locus side was tools​ primarily and I also think they did not have to support as much specific HW (i.e. smaller foot print of devices).
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Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-20 16:05 Noel Chiappa
2017-11-20 16:37 ` Clem Cole
2017-11-20 16:47   ` Charles H Sauer [this message]
2017-11-20 17:44     ` Toby Thain
2017-11-20 19:07 ` Paul Winalski
2017-11-20 19:10   ` Larry McVoy
2017-11-20 19:36     ` Warner Losh
2017-11-20 19:36       ` Larry McVoy
2017-11-20 19:39         ` Larry McVoy
2017-11-20 19:56     ` Arthur Krewat
2017-11-20 19:59       ` Larry McVoy
2017-11-20 19:27   ` arnold
2017-11-20 19:29     ` Larry McVoy
2017-11-20 22:56       ` Michael Parson
2017-11-20 23:23         ` Larry McVoy
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-11-22 15:38 Noel Chiappa
2017-11-28  0:13 ` Kevin Bowling
2017-11-21  2:56 Noel Chiappa
2017-11-21  3:15 ` Ron Natalie
2017-11-21  3:51   ` Larry McVoy
2017-11-21  5:14     ` Warner Losh
2017-11-21  5:20       ` Larry McVoy
2017-11-20  0:57 Nemo
2017-11-20  1:01 ` Ronald Natalie
2017-11-20  1:06 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-11-20  3:50 ` arnold
2017-11-20 15:23   ` Clem Cole
2017-11-20 16:03     ` ron minnich
2017-11-20 16:31       ` Clem Cole
2017-11-20 19:44         ` Paul Winalski
2017-11-20 19:56           ` Larry McVoy
2017-11-20 23:43             ` Ron Natalie
2017-11-20 23:45               ` Larry McVoy
2017-11-20 23:49                 ` Ron Natalie
     [not found]                 ` <CAC20D2N=aBhdON1YqHH57ZG-TmC62yWGF4_=HK5Gp2XwdbHkyQ@mail.gmail.com>
2017-11-21  2:41                   ` Larry McVoy
2017-11-29 22:42                     ` Dave Horsfall
2017-11-29 22:55                       ` ron minnich
2017-11-21  1:15     ` Ron Natalie
2017-11-21  3:29       ` Grant Taylor
2017-11-21  3:40         ` Ron Natalie
2017-11-21  3:46           ` Grant Taylor
2017-11-21  8:09             ` arnold
2017-11-21 16:49             ` Paul Winalski
2017-11-21  4:34           ` Clem cole
2017-11-21  5:42             ` Grant Taylor
2017-11-21 12:00               ` Ron Natalie
2017-11-21 13:51                 ` Clem Cole
2017-11-21 14:59                   ` Larry McVoy
2017-11-21 17:06                     ` Clem Cole
2017-11-21 17:23                       ` Clem Cole
2017-11-21 18:29                         ` Larry McVoy
2017-11-21 19:10                           ` Clem Cole
2017-11-21 15:40                   ` Ron Natalie
2017-11-21 15:45                     ` Larry McVoy
2017-11-21 13:24               ` Clem Cole
2017-11-22  1:33 ` Kevin Bowling
2017-11-22  6:35   ` Wesley Parish
2017-11-22  9:38     ` Kevin Bowling
2017-11-22 13:40       ` Clem Cole
2017-11-22 14:09         ` Ron Natalie
2017-11-22 13:51     ` Clem Cole
2017-11-22 14:04       ` Ron Natalie

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