From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 10a23915 for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2018 07:36:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 807F8A1DDA; Thu, 27 Sep 2018 17:36:21 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D39A49E99B; Thu, 27 Sep 2018 17:35:52 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 829479E99B; Thu, 27 Sep 2018 17:35:50 +1000 (AEST) Received: from lb1-smtp-cloud7.xs4all.net (lb1-smtp-cloud7.xs4all.net [194.109.24.24]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 741969E998 for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2018 17:35:48 +1000 (AEST) Received: from [192.168.1.111] ([80.101.112.122]) by smtp-cloud7.xs4all.net with ESMTPA id 5QptgB3TGw2L85QpugdoT9; Thu, 27 Sep 2018 09:35:46 +0200 From: Paul Ruizendaal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 09:35:44 +0200 To: TUHS main list X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfAGe8veBdK15onsnGRq0gbgJkSlii/EyuXMbojLsKSR4C+n7iEnwKtJXgDmHcBWTaI6Rf82hC745w1fY5mhEUN+rdBt+GnwY43W33LjyYuciTd24UDfk HFke7M2T59pibSlntVGDUxdYeHoi1BYcbA7BQIqIKswvRFCQ0sC8cALi Subject: Re: [TUHS] SPARC is CRAPS spelled backwards. X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" > Did the 5150 have a UNIX available anywhere near its launch date? I = know > that it had DOS, CP/M-86, and the UCSD p-System relatively early on. = It's > not clear to me whether Xenix ever supported the original PC; were = there > other early porting efforts? The first version of Venix-86 ran on the PC/XT, almost a 5150, in May = 83. It was V7 based. I think it was the first Unix on a PC. Heinz Lycklama (who did Unix LSX and MX at Bell labs in the 70=E2=80=99s) = did PC/IX about a year later, based on Sys III. This was marketed by = IBM. Based on the early Xenix porting chart here = http://seefigure1.com/2014/04/15/xenixtime.html , a PC/XT version of = Xenix appeared around the same time as PC/IX. However, if the chart is = correct there may have been Xenix versions for other 8086-based machines = a year before that. Note that in this chart the =E2=80=9CXenix 2.0=E2=80=9D= and =E2=80=9CXenix 3.0=E2=80=9D labels refer to MS internal versions, = i.e. these numbers are not to be confused with the marketing labels IBM = PC Xenix 2.0 and 3.0. These versions are a hole in the TUHS archive (unless they are in the = confidential archive). It would be wonderful if MS would open up = pre-1984 Xenix on the occasion of Unix 50th. These builds would well = illustrate the broad Unix portability, which was unique at the time. Paul