From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 17573 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2022 05:02:20 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 29 Jul 2022 05:02:20 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73754408CE; Fri, 29 Jul 2022 15:01:56 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail.kaybuena.com (rrcs-71-42-153-194.sw.biz.rr.com [71.42.153.194]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49F84407C3 for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2022 15:01:50 +1000 (AEST) Received: from smtpclient.apple (4dot2 [71.42.153.195]) by mail.kaybuena.com (8.17.1/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 26T51mlw3926355 for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2022 00:01:48 -0500 From: "Charles H. Sauer" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_1BEFD2EB-B968-4AD9-AAA2-F475964D6229" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3696.120.41.1.1\)) Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2022 00:01:48 -0500 References: <1oF87S-4zW-00@marmaro.de> <8NgHeeJiYEBE0zhtd9RdKIeYWcAwtxsnAj7YhVIvLpz-yt0__LeFvVzNNGgSNTeDGnVQy-qxkoHWvmRi84ybYyNAiMRDJuVoAaEG96UAu4s=@protonmail.com> <20220724190253.GA23421@tau1.ceti.pl> <20220728003014.GB6195@tau1.ceti.pl> <202207280103.26S13ZL5059300@ultimate.com> <19b82d6e-6b8e-7b49-69ca-e63d0e3c5856@riddermarkfarm.ca> To: tuhs@tuhs.org In-Reply-To: <19b82d6e-6b8e-7b49-69ca-e63d0e3c5856@riddermarkfarm.ca> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3696.120.41.1.1) X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (mail.kaybuena.com [71.42.153.194]); Fri, 29 Jul 2022 00:01:49 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID-Hash: YDKVZ7N7XYAOH7GGVXDYFSHW67LNTKP7 X-Message-ID-Hash: YDKVZ7N7XYAOH7GGVXDYFSHW67LNTKP7 X-MailFrom: sauer@technologists.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: SNOBOL and progeny [Was: Re: Re: Line Numbers Before SysIII nl? BSD num?] List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --Apple-Mail=_1BEFD2EB-B968-4AD9-AAA2-F475964D6229 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii A few experiences as SNOBOL/Icon enthusiast, not expert, ending with = limited tie back to Unix: o Introduced to SNOBOL4 in introductory programming languages course = summer 1971 U.T. Austin o ca 1976 used SNOBOL4 on VM/370 to build Fortran to PL/I translator = "The elapsed time between beginning work on the translator and getting a = running PL/I version of APLOMB was approximately two weeks, and this = achievement was a great relief to those who anticipated a much, much = larger effort." = https://technologists.com/sauer/The_Evolution_of_the_Research_Queueing_Pac= kage.pdf = o ca 1985 (with minimal effort) modified/built Icon to run on PC/IX, = began emailing with Ralph Griswold o Discovered IBM colleague Viktors Berstis and his SNOBOL = advocacy/expertise (http://berstis.com/ ) o ca 1986 "With help from an ISC colleague, I created a PL.8 to C = translator using Icon, that was used to facilitate some of the = rewriting. [of the RT/PC VRM]" = https://notes.technologists.com/notes/2017/03/08/lets-start-at-the-very-be= ginning-801-romp-rtpc-aix-versions/ = Charlie -- voice: +1.512.784.7526 e-mail: sauer@technologists.com = =20 fax: +1.512.346.5240 web: https://technologists.com/sauer/ = Facebook/Google/Skype/Twitter: CharlesHSauer --Apple-Mail=_1BEFD2EB-B968-4AD9-AAA2-F475964D6229 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
A few experiences as SNOBOL/Icon enthusiast, not expert, = ending with limited tie back to Unix:
o Introduced to SNOBOL4 in introductory = programming languages course summer 1971 U.T. Austin
o ca = 1976 used SNOBOL4 on VM/370 to build Fortran to PL/I translator "The = elapsed time between beginning work on the translator and getting a = running PL/I version of APLOMB was approximately two weeks, and this = achievement was a great relief to those who anticipated a much, much = larger effort." https://technologists.com/sauer/The_Evolution_of_the_Research_Q= ueueing_Package.pdf
o ca 1985 (with minimal effort) modified/built Icon to run on = PC/IX, began emailing with Ralph Griswold
o = Discovered IBM colleague Viktors Berstis and his SNOBOL = advocacy/expertise (http://berstis.com/)
o ca 1986 "With help from an ISC = colleague, I created a PL.8 to C translator using Icon, that was used to = facilitate some of the rewriting. [of the RT/PC VRM]" https://notes.technologists.com/notes/2017/03/08/lets-start-at-= the-very-beginning-801-romp-rtpc-aix-versions/

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