From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 12881 invoked from network); 19 Sep 2023 09:48:03 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 19 Sep 2023 09:48:03 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DE00402EF; Tue, 19 Sep 2023 19:47:56 +1000 (AEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuhs.org; s=dkim; t=1695116876; h=from:from:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-owner:list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=eoG1o5Y9dYjqwLWce0TCRPhXuaGNcRc9PaXbP+gF3Bc=; b=ufbQIl/xC7/kpe32MrWEEIE+J66Uy1VAGr//9KOci/k6t8L5Rt+Sev+tpFDa3rNu7s+aNN AogU0nl18EdFmWRyr3f1MOB/Lh9ZDVLrRG+HOuPB8aGf1apzG++baDK4YvqRqT+X4lra0R nbsXZrW0S0EWXizNRYqBv6Roth37D58= Received: from ms11p00im-hyfv17281201.me.com (ms11p00im-hyfv17281201.me.com [17.58.38.39]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D8D1B402E2 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2023 19:47:46 +1000 (AEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=me.com; s=1a1hai; t=1695116866; bh=eoG1o5Y9dYjqwLWce0TCRPhXuaGNcRc9PaXbP+gF3Bc=; h=Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:Date:Message-Id:To; b=puuWLdfM59mjKN58C8lL8giY0n+M2eFXI/9POboJc1Nib2Pr2CtLFeB3eikFDJMYN lqQwErkHUXwwKchoCo4c2YwBtJE/Ma2UgmLINf2446CMRuFgjAHcValApyQQAZGfO9 wGBaZ8t1rS6Y7Nj+/gWuEkynDbjvRp/wyVRajqYNsHs1C/mg6nJg5kr8/aP3OYIc5P IM9wSjEWygUOcQyUI4jxNT98C8RFfMZz9xggh2wmoMDGXiyP+O/amasKwM/E5ZmE/i d0kDQlumou5vhheKZu8hZXHgU93MyWPWqLuy8Qxd9UXhEfjxB35Td+q5VGdNlzkUmK Ps5L91+pIZTRQ== Received: from smtpclient.apple (ms11p00im-dlb-asmtpmailmevip.me.com [17.57.154.19]) by ms11p00im-hyfv17281201.me.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3C430C803C9; Tue, 19 Sep 2023 09:47:45 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3696.120.41.1.4\)) In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2023 11:47:42 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <81B4F221-C3EF-4543-84CD-78E52ABF0E67@planet.nl> To: Theodore Ts'o X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3696.120.41.1.4) X-Proofpoint-ORIG-GUID: nn_uoPIgXKp7ga1J4quCM7-MEFr-EMIA X-Proofpoint-GUID: nn_uoPIgXKp7ga1J4quCM7-MEFr-EMIA X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: =?UTF-8?Q?vendor=3Dfsecure_engine=3D1.1.170-22c6f66c430a71ce266a39bfe25bc?= =?UTF-8?Q?2903e8d5c8f:6.0.138,18.0.572,17.0.605.474.0000000_definitions?= =?UTF-8?Q?=3D2020-02-14=5F11:2020-02-14=5F02,2020-02-14=5F11,2020-01-23?= =?UTF-8?Q?=5F02_signatures=3D0?= X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 bulkscore=0 suspectscore=0 clxscore=1011 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 adultscore=0 malwarescore=0 mlxlogscore=990 phishscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2212070000 definitions=main-2309190082 Message-ID-Hash: KVXQAKAMF3QNBP4SWBW5VK27ZZJVEHB5 X-Message-ID-Hash: KVXQAKAMF3QNBP4SWBW5VK27ZZJVEHB5 X-MailFrom: mstiller@me.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: Paul Ruizendaal , "tuhs@tuhs.org" X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: x/y/zmodem on Unix List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: From: Michael Stiller via TUHS Reply-To: Michael Stiller X-Spam: Yes I just wanted to mention, that you can also get zmodem support for = iTerm2 if you are on mac. In fact i use it a lot. See here: https://github.com/robberphex/iTerm2-zmodem Best regards, Michael > On 19. Sep 2023, at 04:04, Theodore Ts'o wrote: >=20 > On Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 07:07:25PM -0400, Dan Cross wrote: >>=20 >> xmodem lives on in a lot of embedded applications because of its >> overall simplicity. We used it to bootstrap kernels onto Oxide >> computers, for example, while we were doing active development. >=20 > Today, KDE's Konsole terminal window has a "ZModem upload" function, > which I've used for sending a file up to some system where the > administrator on the remote machine has disabled scp and sftp for > random security $REASONS. >=20 > I could compress the file and use uuencode/uudecode, but for larger > files where cut and paste isn't terribly convenient, using zmodem can > be one of the simpler and more effective. >=20 > - Ted