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b=W0dgrlkt7VEqMk7pRFJKpGZXIE TBUnVY6qEJ7MXzdQU/P8C62/bnc91hOfNkr4iQjxw88Jr3jZ3InWCBX+b/Q0UcUKPaZpDHRmLXn8D oef9+W7gg6fri+xvf/3I/lFoajZJKnwaePnslhznyJqNQJ2ieWmsbGCsMHtN8HhLTwRk=; Received: from 99-98-248-85.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net ([99.98.248.85]:49329 helo=[192.168.2.77]) by dallas136.arvixeshared.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.91) (envelope-from ) id 1kZUAA-002eNc-FH; Mon, 02 Nov 2020 01:21:58 -0600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.1\)) From: Andrew Hume In-Reply-To: <20201102050717.GG72955@eureka.lemis.com> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2020 23:21:57 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20201102050717.GG72955@eureka.lemis.com> To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.1) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dallas136.arvixeshared.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - tuhs.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - humeweb.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 99.98.248.85 X-Source-L: No X-Exim-ID: 1kZUAA-002eNc-FH X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: 99-98-248-85.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net ([192.168.2.77]) [99.98.248.85]:49329 X-Source-Auth: andrew@humeweb.com X-Email-Count: 1 X-Source-Cap: YWh1bWU7YWh1bWU7ZGFsbGFzMTM2LmFydml4ZXNoYXJlZC5jb20= X-Local-Domain: yes Subject: Re: [TUHS] Lions notes, early history X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: UNIX Heritage Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" i was a TA for the course which used this as a textbook. my memory is little faded on this (it was on the other side of my = stroke), but i believe they were perfect bound (cloth strip and glue) and had two different colors for the covers (i want to say orange and red). they might have been just stapled but they were thick enough that = staples might have been insufficient. i certainly remember john printing them off on the DEC printer. as for the permissions, i can=E2=80=99t recall anything at the time = (this was about 45 years ago), but do remember the fuss at the Labs when Bell Labs started printing = their own high security copies just a couple of years later. andrew hume > On Nov 1, 2020, at 9:07 PM, Greg 'groggy' Lehey = wrote: >=20 > Warner Losh and I have been discussing the early history of John > Lions' "A commentary on the Sixth Edition UNIX Operating System". > I've been hosting Warren Toomey's version (with some correction of > scan errors) at http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/Lions/ for > some years now, and my understanding had been that the book hadn't > been published, just photocopied, until Warren posted it on > alt.folklore.computers in 1994. But now it seems that the "book" had > been published by UNSW when Lions held the course, and only later was > the license revoked. Does anybody have any insights? What > restrictions were there on its distribution? What was the format? > Was it a real book, or just bound notes? >=20 > Greg > -- > Sent from my desktop computer. > Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key. > See complete headers for address and phone numbers. > This message is digitally signed. If your Microsoft mail program > reports problems, please read http://lemis.com/broken-MUA