From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 28212 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2020 10:27:03 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 2 Nov 2020 10:27:03 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 83BF39D58D; Mon, 2 Nov 2020 20:26:59 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44D959D573; Mon, 2 Nov 2020 20:26:36 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="FCoV81wo"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 64FAA9D573; Mon, 2 Nov 2020 20:26:32 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-oi1-f170.google.com (mail-oi1-f170.google.com [209.85.167.170]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D56819D572 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2020 20:26:31 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-oi1-f170.google.com with SMTP id t143so2600047oif.10 for ; Mon, 02 Nov 2020 02:26:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=content-transfer-encoding:from:mime-version:subject:date:message-id :references:cc:in-reply-to:to; bh=/mT7fDOvmUrS8DAS/YWTV2h/9IwUs15mWsHo/3CfbtQ=; b=FCoV81woixe9IwBSp+Wub1Alc8kymTiJH+FCglMkj7h7N3CS2AXh2Uej07mIIZaQgp vDYx11bL+pwiqfb6D0oRZxRgklA6/iVBCiLs5a53eMhvWz8cMuSHZ23E50aPvi2KxBUz 7FeKkjqOQ8uW+1e/BNiu7BfdUWwby4opXAp6FzyMyy2UwVUlR1QWJ2AiDmv1g0k2ipxr TO+8F3srpR2LzfmSlHr6ObmDfoMo6XzUwaktOqiUZ03OFwv6k+pHOffoJhLmgA6mHEvW woi/ZFCZ5Tob7GZc+cuVGBWcweUKiintevnmgOIAeUIRSjWl1We8hyv5lbABqDWS1G1T L6Pg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:content-transfer-encoding:from:mime-version :subject:date:message-id:references:cc:in-reply-to:to; bh=/mT7fDOvmUrS8DAS/YWTV2h/9IwUs15mWsHo/3CfbtQ=; b=VYWm9CXxcga6Y0ZkcHnyH+arwJziKIugU7PN6ue6HocHkkx4RiHAH56nWPm+32P1m+ qEbDElaF1bjpdzrbDzPW76fq5HlEomYufoulnTOfptlAvzt2vkuXj6GNv+655wWWhTbq g8hCEOInOmGLAZ1LcFd2mcK6ZIO8Hy6f1Sg1KZO5qSjIMq7YbLvcnIVcqStOYWmDCyI+ 23hnTmVwsBsrfSACrhPLJa+XvpEF0hGiYeNHFJDUJrPeHikiMbTilhvIcVQnsc9x/Hly J6ymGbPG3UnMelUFdocmaYawOedvqgB+pwC4srxKa9BYXjRk3bAhuuAPD7pk5ccqofpk 0WHQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530RapJZjyYgPd9dklI1NTKHMEhy8RpYAgnkVWY2+ALlCxPeKTdo hMzXYbrWQo4WNjA2uLESAcM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwzR6Ctg7aFsW0OOp1Dv1r0S+Wc2ArBXrw0fx9Gydqd40J+iT98s28F/vG/y80DG6eefsRoJw== X-Received: by 2002:aca:cdc4:: with SMTP id d187mr10130599oig.19.1604312791179; Mon, 02 Nov 2020 02:26:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.17.255.194] ([205.203.58.115]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j10sm3269291oii.14.2020.11.02.02.26.29 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 02 Nov 2020 02:26:29 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-616F3B21-4BF7-48E7-A3FE-2AFA4FAC8D66 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Ed Bradford Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2020 04:26:29 -0600 Message-Id: References: In-Reply-To: To: Warner Losh X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (18A8395) Subject: Re: [TUHS] Lions notes, early history X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: UNIX Heritage Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --Apple-Mail-616F3B21-4BF7-48E7-A3FE-2AFA4FAC8D66 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I had the orange and red books but I sold them to a fellow in Europe who has= a Unix Museum. He also bought one of UNIX lice eggs plates. I took high resolution photos of each page before I sent them to Europe. I c= an send copies if that is legal and anyone is interested. Ed Bradford Pflugerville, TX Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 1, 2020, at 11:22 PM, Warner Losh wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BF >=20 >=20 >> On Sun, Nov 1, 2020 at 10:16 PM Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrot= e: >> Warner Losh and I have been discussing the early history of John >> Lions' "A commentary on the Sixth Edition UNIX Operating System". >> I've been hosting Warren Toomey's version (with some correction of >> scan errors) at http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/Lions/ for >> some years now, and my understanding had been that the book hadn't >> been published, just photocopied, until Warren posted it on >> alt.folklore.computers in 1994. But now it seems that the "book" had >> been published by UNSW when Lions held the course, and only later was >> the license revoked. Does anybody have any insights? What >> restrictions were there on its distribution? What was the format? >> Was it a real book, or just bound notes? >=20 > The pictures I've seen online are of a bound book, but lack photos of what= 's inside. It contained a legend in the front saying you needed a 6th editio= n license from AT&T to receive a copy. Beyond that, I'd love to hear what o= thers know about this detail. >=20 > Warner=20 --Apple-Mail-616F3B21-4BF7-48E7-A3FE-2AFA4FAC8D66 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I had the orange and red books but I sold t= hem to a fellow in Europe who has a Unix Museum. He also bought one of UNIX l= ice eggs plates.

I took high resolution photos of each pa= ge before I sent them to Europe. I can send copies if that is legal and anyo= ne is interested.

Ed Bradford
Pflugervill= e, TX

Sent from my iPhone

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On Nov 1, 2020, at 11:22 PM, Warner Losh <imp@b= sdimp.com> wrote:

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On Sun, Nov 1, 20= 20 at 10:16 PM Greg 'groggy' Lehey <gro= g@lemis.com> wrote:
Warner Losh and I have been discussing the early history of John
Lions' "A commentary on the Sixth Edition UNIX Operating System".
I've been hosting Warren Toomey's version (with some correction of
scan errors) at http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/= Lions/ for
some years now, and my understanding had been that the book hadn't
been published, just photocopied, until Warren posted it on
alt.folklore.computers in 1994.  But now it seems that the "book" had been published by UNSW when Lions held the course, and only later was
the license revoked.  Does anybody have any insights?  What
restrictions were there on its distribution?  What was the format?
Was it a real book, or just bound notes?

The pictures I've seen online are of a bound book, but lack photos of w= hat's inside. It contained a legend in the front saying you needed a 6th edi= tion license from AT&T to receive a copy.  Beyond that, I'd love to= hear what others know about this detail.

Warner&nb= sp;
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