From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,MIME_QP_LONG_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 12353 invoked from network); 21 Sep 2022 22:45:25 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 21 Sep 2022 22:45:25 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB93240A0D; Thu, 22 Sep 2022 08:44:50 +1000 (AEST) Received: from pb-smtp20.pobox.com (pb-smtp20.pobox.com [173.228.157.52]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8BC8C40A0C for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2022 08:44:46 +1000 (AEST) Received: from pb-smtp20.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp20.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7A0A1CFADF; Wed, 21 Sep 2022 18:44:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from joseph@josephholsten.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h= content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from:mime-version:subject :date:message-id:references:cc:in-reply-to:to; s=sasl; bh=yUCsI1 ziIHOy+D+n6CH1uY61Vxjohxtcw45JrLJLXGY=; b=vIj/0W3nt/B5+BWbVsquNJ V4Zr96CEX8tepoHKzzfepqC/KIVNZxhQLA+Fs0UGovwJSdNSQjOXV0/gWJzHojq9 0Ox1pIX7MqFIaNroiJw7+SSFcPgRm8OQvkgCWX1J70xgAb/F+iHvZS+T05q1We00 BOLQISWaQfrVmRZD03EPg= Received: from pb-smtp20.sea.icgroup.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp20.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0C4D1CFADE; Wed, 21 Sep 2022 18:44:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from joseph@josephholsten.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=josephholsten.com; h=content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from:mime-version:subject:date:message-id:references:cc:in-reply-to:to; s=mesmtp; bh=yUCsI1ziIHOy+D+n6CH1uY61Vxjohxtcw45JrLJLXGY=; b=Suruv/M8A61YE/9vxeykwgk1GDLGE2KTnGdnwtzqQHrEolOUONM37Mkl6b/xP2vrEVsATPuC4/fTOEwBQtw96XYSJWTGa4oXAMppYU2wQ3pUvYvalvn1mARMH5EpW97gF0Fc+8kJBd1E/ONYRcFeuI3PIGg578fnoavLOTvOfGc= Received: from smtpclient.apple (unknown [98.59.196.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pb-smtp20.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9B4621CFADD; Wed, 21 Sep 2022 18:44:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from joseph@josephholsten.com) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-14F2DA4D-8CC6-48F0-B3CF-A36638D130AC Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Joseph Holsten Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2022 15:44:29 -0700 Message-Id: References: In-Reply-To: To: Steve Nickolas X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (20A362) X-Pobox-Relay-ID: FB27BF1E-39FE-11ED-8825-C2DA088D43B2-15777318!pb-smtp20.pobox.com Message-ID-Hash: UV7XYJ5LY77ZW2TPRTAUCJFQW3CF7FPR X-Message-ID-Hash: UV7XYJ5LY77ZW2TPRTAUCJFQW3CF7FPR X-MailFrom: joseph@josephholsten.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: tuhs@tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Early BSD license thread List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --Apple-Mail-14F2DA4D-8CC6-48F0-B3CF-A36638D130AC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > On Sep 21, 2022, at 15:18, Steve Nickolas wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BFOn Wed, 21 Sep 2022, Dan Cross wrote: >=20 >>> On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 5:50 PM Phil Budne wrote: >>> Not to excuse the failure of the BSD team to properly attribute source >>> origin by adding only their copyright notice, but didn't AT&T try >>> unfair turnabout by not properly attributing the origins of their >>> TCP/IP code? >>=20 >> One of my favorite copyright notices was for /bin/true in System V. >> An empty file got turned into 7 lines of comments holding copyright >> boilerplate and an `#ident` line with an SCCS version number: >> progress! >>=20 >> - Dan C. >>=20 >=20 > And then when I wrote it for my own project: >=20 > true - >=20 > #!/bin/sh > # Does something this small need a license? - SVN > exit 0 >=20 > false - >=20 > #!/bin/sh > # Does something this small need a license? - SVN > exit 1 >=20 > -uso. I=E2=80=99ve thought of this example many times when the 9fans minimalists t= alk about empty-file `true` impls. Which of course would lead to the 3.8k reported issues of https://github.com= /kelseyhightower/nocode -- ~j= --Apple-Mail-14F2DA4D-8CC6-48F0-B3CF-A36638D130AC Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Sep 21,= 2022, at 15:18, Steve Nickolas <usotsuki@buric.co> wrote:

=EF=BB=BFOn W= ed, 21 Sep 2022, Dan Cross wrote:

On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 5:50 PM Phil Budne <phil@ultimat= e.com> wrote:
Not to excuse the failure of the BSD team to properly a= ttribute source
origin by adding only their copyright noti= ce, but didn't AT&T try
unfair turnabout by not properl= y attributing the origins of their
TCP/IP code?
=

One of my favorite copyright notices w= as for /bin/true in System V.
An empty file got turned into 7 lines of comments holding copyright=
boilerplate and an `= #ident` line with an SCCS version number:
progress!

 &nb= sp;    - Dan C.


And then when I w= rote it for my own project:

true -
#!/bin/sh
# Does something this sma= ll need a license? - SVN
exit 0

<= span>false -

#!/bin/sh
# Do= es something this small need a license? - SVN
exit 1<= br>
-uso.

= I=E2=80=99ve thought of this example many times when the 9fans minimalists t= alk about empty-file `true` impls.

Which of course would l= ead to the 3.8k reported issues of https://github.com/kelseyhightower/nocode

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