From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 25555 invoked from network); 29 Mar 2021 15:27:13 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 29 Mar 2021 15:27:13 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 13EB59C892; Tue, 30 Mar 2021 01:27:11 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56E559C82B; Tue, 30 Mar 2021 01:27:00 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 1A0909C82B; Tue, 30 Mar 2021 01:26:57 +1000 (AEST) Received: from server907.appriver.com (server907a.appriver.com [204.232.250.39]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7FC949C829 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2021 01:26:56 +1000 (AEST) X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-Note-AR-ScanTimeLocal: 03/29/2021 11:26:55 AM X-Note: SecureTide Build: 2/18/2021 5:23:18 PM UTC (2.18.2.0) X-Note: Filtered by 10.246.1.78 X-Note-AR-Scan: None - PIPE Received: by server907.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 6.2.15) with PIPE id 111142056; Mon, 29 Mar 2021 11:26:55 -0400 Received: from [10.246.0.39] (HELO smtp.us.exg7.exghost.com) by server907.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.15) with ESMTPS id 111142029; Mon, 29 Mar 2021 11:26:52 -0400 Received: from E16DN31A-S1E7.exg7.exghost.local (192.168.244.15) by E16DN14B-S1E7.exg7.exghost.local (192.168.244.143) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256_P256) id 15.1.2176.0; Mon, 29 Mar 2021 11:26:51 -0400 Received: from E16DN31A-S1E7.exg7.exghost.local ([192.168.244.15]) by E16DN31A-S1E7.exg7.exghost.local ([192.168.244.15]) with mapi id 15.01.2176.009; Mon, 29 Mar 2021 11:26:51 -0400 From: Brantley Coile To: Anders Damsgaard Thread-Topic: [TUHS] Remember the ed thread? Thread-Index: AQHXJKkZOOfusg2b/k6q8JsCGxokeaqbVLYAgAAE5gA= Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2021 15:26:51 +0000 Message-ID: References: <20210329143449.GA28080@mcvoy.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [99.102.142.76] x-rerouted-by-exchange: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-Note-AR-ScanTimeLocal: 03/29/2021 11:26:52 AM X-Note: SecureTide Build: 2/18/2021 5:23:18 PM UTC (2.18.2.0) X-Note: Filtered by 10.246.1.78 X-Policy: GLOBAL X-Primary: GLOBAL@coraid.com X-Note-Sender: brantley@coraid.com X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note-SnifferID: 0 X-GBUdb-Analysis: 0, 10.246.0.39, Ugly c=0.071429 p=0 Source Normal X-Signature-Violations: 0-0-0-4697-c X-Note-419: 15.625 ms. Fail:0 Chk:1420 of 1420 total X-Note: VSCH-CT/SI: 0-1420/SG:1 3/29/2021 11:26:50 AM X-Warn: NONCONTACT Contains questionable phrase X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: NONCONTACT X-Country-Path: PRIVATE->PRIVATE-> X-Note-Sending-IP: 10.246.0.39 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: X-Note-Return-Path: brantley@coraid.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: G832 G833 G834 G835 G853 G854 G855 G1262 X-Note: Encrypt Rule Hits: X-Note: Mail Class: VALID Subject: Re: [TUHS] Remember the ed thread? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: "tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org" Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" >From 1984, when I stopped using vi (vee eye), until the early 1990's, when I could use Sam, I used a slightly hacked version of ed. I added what the Labs called the "b" command. I had use some other character. Denni= s Ritchie sent me a 8th Edition Unix manual, and I saw they had added almost the same thing and called the command by the second letter. Vi called it the last letter, "z."=20 I've never found ed slows me down. Some things I would have used awk/sed for that I now use Sam's command window for, but that's a bad thing. I stil= l use ed a lot along side Sam. > On Mar 29, 2021, at 11:09 AM, Anders Damsgaard wro= te: >=20 > * Larry McVoy [2021-03-29 07:34:49 -0700]: >=20 >> I had *.clients.your-server.de crawling mcvoy.com in violation of my >> robots.txt. For whatever reason, the tty settings (or something) >> made vi not work, I dunno what the deal is, stty -tabs didn't help. >>=20 >> So I had to resort to ed to write and debug the little program below. >> It was surprisingly pleasant, it's probably the first time I've used ed >> for anything real in at least a decade. My fingers still know it. >>=20 >> +1 for ed. It's how many decades old and still useful? >=20 > I recently learned ed(1) for the first time (I have a unix beard, but it'= s > not grey yet). I found ed to be very efficient and useful for small fixes= , > even on slow connections. This beginner's tutorial was very helpful > for me: gopher://katolaz.net/0/ed_tutorial.txt >=20 > (https mirror for non-gopher clients: > https://adamsgaard.dk/npub/ed_tutorial.txt )