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From: Erik Fair <fair@netbsd.org>
To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org
Subject: Re: [TUHS] Unix on Zilog Z8000?
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2020 18:08:11 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <B19A30B1-C01C-4FF8-859F-7584F1A6D708@netbsd.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e44f0597-bff4-2cdd-8ca5-be394eb2e434@mhorton.net>

… and after Mary Ann was done with it (sometime 1981?), Professor Fabry gave the UCB Onyx to a bunch of undergraduates which they used as the first computer of the Undergraduate Computing Facility (UCF, predecessor to the UCB XCF which had a pile of Suns to play with) in room B50 (basement) of Evans Hall. I was one of those undergrads.

That machine became the “x” host on the UCB BerkNet, and it was where B version netnews software was written by Matt Glickman (he was a high school student at the time and while he had Mary Ann’s patronage, my memory is that none of the more official computer services in CS or the Computer Center would give him an account - but we did). At the time, every other computer had restrictions on who could use ‘em, or that you had to pay hefty fees for use (the computer center PDP-11/70s were in that class) - our policy was: if you have a current UCB student ID, we’ll give you an account. We didn’t care whether you were a CS or Engineering student, or not.

I remember fixing bugs in various bits of BSD stuff we added to the userland and kernel - we had full source to play with, which was nice. Adding job control was a top priority, and one of our hacks was to change the tty line discipline to restore previous “cooked” character processing state if the program in foreground which had last changed it exited non-zero - that way, programs that modified tty state didn’t need to be recoded for job control too, which, in a system with PDP-11-like memory restrictions (64k text, 64k data maximum per process), was useful.

We trained an awful lot of students in the ways of Unix, and many of them became system administrators of the explosion of Unix systems which came to UCB later: the workstation clusters, other microcomputer based Unixes, etc. Kernel hackers (systems programmers) too.

Mary Ann also allowed me to photocopy a samizdat copy of the Lions Book, too. I still have that … somewhere, though I bought a copy of the Peter Salus 1996 republication, too.

	Erik Fair

> On Jan 22, 2020, at 09:00, Mary Ann Horton <mah@mhorton.net> wrote:
> 
> Absolutely. When I was an impoverished grad student at Berkeley, Zilog hired me as a consultant to port vi and the other Berkeley tools to their Z8000 UNIX system. It was a treasured paying gig.
> 
> As I recall, it was a 16 bit system (with some addressing enhancements ala the 11/70). By then, the VAX was popular and everybody wanted 32 bit systems. People were pinning their micro-UNIX hopes on the Motorola 68K.
> 
> Even before Zilog's ZEUS, Onyx came out with a microwave oven-sized box based on the Z8000. They loaned one to Berkeley, and it was my first home computer when I took it home to port the tools. Everything had to be copied over by serial port.
> 
>     Mary Ann
> 
> On 1/21/20 9:52 AM, Jon Forrest wrote:
>> There's been a lot of discussion about early Unix on Intel, National
>> Semi, Motorola, and Sparc processors. I don't recall if Unix ran on
>> the Z8000, and if not, why not.
>> 
>> As I remember the Z8000 was going to be the great white hope that
>> would continue Zilog's success with the Z80 into modern times.
>> But, it obviously didn't happen.
>> 
>> Why?
>> 
>> Jon


  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-01-23  2:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-21 17:52 Jon Forrest
2020-01-21 18:13 ` Steve Nickolas
2020-01-21 18:27   ` William Pechter
2020-01-21 18:15 ` Henry Bent
2020-01-21 18:20   ` Larry McVoy
2020-01-21 21:48     ` Nigel Williams
2020-01-21 22:00       ` Henry Bent
2020-01-21 22:36         ` Derek Fawcus
2020-01-21 22:35     ` Jason Stevens
2020-03-15 18:40       ` Cornelius Keck
2020-03-16  0:28         ` Wesley Parish
2020-03-16 22:02           ` Derek Fawcus
2020-01-21 18:32   ` William Pechter
2020-01-21 21:24   ` Jon Forrest
2020-01-21 18:28 ` Clem Cole
2020-01-21 21:07   ` Heinz Lycklama
2020-01-21 21:32   ` [TUHS] Onyx (was Re: Unix on Zilog Z8000?) Derek Fawcus
2020-01-22  8:18   ` [TUHS] Unix on Zilog Z8000? Arrigo Triulzi
2020-01-22 17:00 ` Mary Ann Horton
2020-01-22 21:04   ` [TUHS] Life at UC Berkeley (was Unix on Zilog Z8000?) Jon Forrest
2020-01-23  2:08   ` Erik Fair [this message]
2020-01-22 19:55 ` [TUHS] Unix on Zilog Z8000? Andreas Hein
2020-01-23 12:01   ` Oliver Lehmann
2020-01-25  1:46     ` [TUHS] Dhrystone Benchmark (was: Unix on Zilog Z8000?) Oliver Lehmann
2020-01-25  1:49       ` Oliver Lehmann
2020-01-25  2:29         ` Warner Losh
2020-01-22 10:56 [TUHS] Unix on Zilog Z8000? Paul Ruizendaal
2020-01-22 13:14 Paul Ruizendaal
2020-01-22 15:14 ` Clem Cole

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