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From: Clem cole <clemc@ccc.com>
To: reed@reedmedia.net
Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] a book (was Re:  PWB vs Unix/TS)
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 18:46:25 -0400
Message-ID: <B2F032E8-E51B-4E58-AA8F-33BE5B7AD75F@ccc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.NEB.2.21.1909101307530.11702@t1.m.reedmedia.net>

Peter Salus’s book is pretty good and what he has actuate.  

Sent from my PDP-7 Running UNIX V0 expect things to be almost but not quite. 

> On Sep 13, 2019, at 8:44 PM, reed@reedmedia.net wrote:
> 
> There needs to be a book with stuff like this. There is no Unix history 
> book that I have ever seen with the depth of information in threads like 
> this and others on TUHS.  It would be a huge project and hard to tell if 
> there would me more than just recognition and intrinsic rewards for the 
> effort -- but maybe that is enough.
> 
> (As an example, I have spent hundreds if not thousands of hours 
> researching a small subset: Berkeley Unix history. Attempted to contact 
> hundreds of historical participants. Interviewed near 100 people; most 
> by email, but some in person or by phone -- even postal mail! Building a 
> massive collection of historical data. Read over 30 physical books 
> covering very small parts of the story. Watched many videos (and notes). 
> Getting documents scanned and sent to me. It is a very detailed effort 
> -- such as a single long chapter on the Virtual Vax/UNIX / London/Reiser 
> / Babaoglu story with 168 citations or the single chapters on the 
> official unofficial patchkits, lawsuit, etc. -- and there is nothing in 
> this field to compare it too. I have over 243 bibtex entries already and 
> 215 citations left to add to my .bib file. During that time, I have 
> published six other books, some written from scratch. Some have 
> suggested I use Kickstarter or similar as a financial incentive to 
> finish it off.)
> 
> Since the Unix story is so huge, a first volume could be up through 
> System III, for example, but maybe that is too much.
> 
> Anyone know of anyone writing a thorough Unix history book?
> 
> Does it make sense to use a kickstarter?
> 
> I may bring up in a different thread, but I am presenting about Unix 
> history at Dallas Ft. Worth UNIX Users Group soon. They are planning to 
> have two meetings (different months) dedicated to the history (50th 
> anniversary).
> 
> Jeremy C. Reed
> 
> p.s. Sorry to mention this, but time is running out:
> 
> $ grep -i decease /home/reed/book/bsd-history/PEOPLE | wc -l 
>      17
> 
> pps. My other chapters:
> 
> beginning.tex:\chapter{In the beginning ...}
> 
> 2bsd.tex:\chapter{Second Berkeley Software Tape}
> 
> 3bsd.tex:\chapter{Welcome to Virtual Vax/UNIX}
> 
> 2bsd-part2.tex:\chapter{2BSD becomes an operating system}
> 
> 4bsd.tex:\chapter{4BSD}
> 
> 43bsd.tex:\chapter{4.3BSD -- The Internet Server}
> 
> 2bsd-part3.tex:\chapter{The 16-bit 2BSD continues}
> 
> 43bsd-part2.tex:\chapter{To open source BSD}
> 
> commercial.tex:\chapter{Commercial Unixes using BSD}
> 
> 44bsd.tex:\chapter{4.4BSD}
> 
> bsdi.tex:\chapter{BSDI}
> 
> 386bsd.tex:\chapter{386BSD Part 1}
> 
> lawsuit.tex:\chapter{Lawsuit}
> 
> patchkit.tex:\chapter{The official unofficial patchkits}
> 
> netbsd.tex:\chapter{NetBSD}
> 
> freebsd.tex:\chapter{FreeBSD}
> 
> 386bsd-part3.tex:\chapter{386BSD Part 2}
> 
> bsdi-part2.tex:\chapter{BSDI part 2}
> 
> openbsd.tex:\chapter{OpenBSD}
> 
> netbsd-part2.tex:\chapter{NetBSD -- Part 2}
> 
> dragonfly.tex:\chapter{DragonFly BSD}
> 
> 3bsd-license.tex:\chapter{3BSD Software Agreement (1979)}
> 
> 4bsd-license.tex:\chapter{4BSD Software Agreement (1980)}
> 
> 
> 
> -----------------------
> 
> echo Ohl zl obbx uggc://errqzrqvn.arg/obbxf/csfrafr/ | \
> tr "Onoqrsuvxzabcefghl" "Babdefhikmnoprstuy"

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Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-09  6:25 [TUHS] PWB vs Unix/TS Warner Losh
2019-09-09  6:36 ` arnold
2019-09-10 15:16 ` Clem Cole
2019-09-11  0:28   ` Steve Johnson
2019-09-11  3:53   ` Warner Losh
2019-09-11 15:36     ` Clem Cole
2019-09-11 16:55       ` [TUHS] IBM Unix source licenses [was " Charles H Sauer
2019-09-12 19:31         ` Kevin Bowling
2019-09-12 20:59           ` Clem Cole
2019-09-12 21:09             ` [TUHS] IBM Unix source licenses - Series/1 NUXI Ronald Natalie
2019-09-12 21:31             ` [TUHS] IBM Unix source licenses [was Re: PWB vs Unix/TS Warner Losh
2019-09-12 22:30             ` jcs
2019-09-12 23:12               ` reed
2019-09-12 23:22                 ` jcs
2019-09-12 23:29               ` [TUHS] IBM Unix source licenses Warren Toomey
2019-09-13  7:06                 ` arnold
2019-09-13  8:30                 ` SPC
2019-09-14 18:29                   ` Warner Losh
2019-09-12 21:29           ` [TUHS] IBM Unix source licenses [was Re: PWB vs Unix/TS Charles H Sauer
2019-09-11 17:49       ` [TUHS] " Richard Salz
2019-09-11 17:52         ` ron
2019-09-11 21:44           ` Clem Cole
2019-09-11 18:11       ` Larry McVoy
2019-09-11 18:18         ` Richard Salz
2019-09-11 18:54           ` Larry McVoy
2019-09-11 21:05             ` Steve Johnson
2019-09-11 21:34             ` Steve Johnson
2019-09-11 21:57             ` Clem Cole
2019-09-11 22:50               ` Arthur Krewat
2019-09-11 21:59           ` Clem Cole
2019-09-11 21:50         ` Clem Cole
2019-09-11 22:49         ` Dave Horsfall
2019-09-12  3:43           ` [TUHS] SCCS Larry McVoy
2019-09-12  4:20             ` George Michaelson
2019-09-12  4:31               ` [TUHS] [SPAM] SCCS Larry McVoy
2019-09-12 13:44                 ` Tony Finch
2019-09-13  4:11                   ` Larry McVoy
2019-09-13  5:54                     ` Dave Horsfall
2019-09-13  8:00                       ` Peter Jeremy
2019-09-13 15:23                         ` Larry McVoy
2019-09-13 21:36                         ` Dave Horsfall
2019-09-12  4:28             ` [TUHS] SCCS Jon Forrest
2019-09-12  4:33               ` Larry McVoy
2019-09-12  6:12                 ` William Corcoran
2019-09-12 14:35                   ` Clem Cole
2019-09-13  5:22                 ` Dave Horsfall
2019-09-13  5:50                   ` Bakul Shah
2019-09-12 16:45               ` Eric Allman
2019-09-12 17:29                 ` Clem Cole
2019-09-12 17:47                   ` Warner Losh
2019-09-13  8:12                   ` emanuel stiebler
2019-09-13 21:11                     ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2019-09-13 21:17                       ` Larry McVoy
2019-09-13 21:48                         ` Bakul Shah
2019-09-13 23:12                           ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2019-09-13 23:03                         ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2019-09-14  1:55                           ` [TUHS] [SPAM] SCCS Larry McVoy
2019-09-16 17:23                             ` [TUHS] SCCS Steffen Nurpmeso
2019-09-16 20:31                               ` Larry McVoy
2019-09-17 17:57                                 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2019-09-18  8:48                               ` Eric Allman
2019-09-18 17:33                                 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2019-09-12 20:07             ` Nemo
2019-09-11 16:05   ` [TUHS] PWB vs Unix/TS Paul Winalski
2019-09-11 17:14     ` ron
2019-09-14  0:44   ` [TUHS] a book (was Re: PWB vs Unix/TS) reed
2019-09-14  2:53     ` Warner Losh
2019-09-15  2:18       ` Jon Steinhart
2019-09-15  2:39         ` Clem Cole
2019-09-15  3:24         ` Adam Thornton
2019-09-14 22:46     ` Clem cole [this message]
2019-09-15  0:58       ` Adam Thornton
2019-09-15  3:30         ` Eric Allman
2019-09-15  4:21           ` Larry McVoy
2019-09-15  5:17             ` Jon Steinhart
2019-09-15 20:14               ` Clem Cole
2019-09-15 20:21                 ` Jon Steinhart
2019-09-15 20:12           ` Clem Cole
2019-09-15 21:28             ` Dave Horsfall
2019-09-15 23:27               ` Clem cole
2019-09-15 23:45                 ` Richard Salz
2019-09-15  7:43     ` Andy Kosela

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