From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 21595 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2023 23:21:52 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 29 Jan 2023 23:21:52 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DB4D425A1; Mon, 30 Jan 2023 09:21:16 +1000 (AEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuhs.org; s=dkim; t=1675034476; h=from:from:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-help: list-owner:list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=tpUkcBayTlSX8W7TvLIuy6O1gljw1s4BZy+P6JV84MQ=; b=nkoHJV3vH+SbOsPOxexJ29VIBvEFXnXlQNHC2DuIE8/prAxr9GsGi+KsiFvCt6Xq4LOhcI NTPYEokfOlxiBvJpp41m3rtc+oEgwAunRAprwmx9z0EMvMpqgU4+RtRtM+oB4hScT8LQRy smyYVfiONMzqwHCFcP4Hnj+zPjzMZPU= Received: from ewsoutbound.kpnmail.nl (ewsoutbound.kpnmail.nl [195.121.94.170]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E8B6C4259A for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2023 09:20:59 +1000 (AEST) X-KPN-MessageId: 7f764be8-a02b-11ed-a286-005056ab378f Received: from smtp.kpnmail.nl (unknown [10.31.155.37]) by ewsoutbound.so.kpn.org (Halon) with ESMTPS id 7f764be8-a02b-11ed-a286-005056ab378f; Mon, 30 Jan 2023 00:20:20 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=planet.nl; s=planet01; h=to:date:message-id:subject:mime-version:content-type:from; bh=tpUkcBayTlSX8W7TvLIuy6O1gljw1s4BZy+P6JV84MQ=; b=NEPeR7p3H1/49DFfarP7rSu5+XBAz+i+npM2foBqoOqlqW4GdKKKUT5t+yrFRTPD5HnwPWIkpjo7q BIAUbxpJpnErpQGrj1Zk3diVruw3l1OLjZsI4Ls7jSD+kWm3bccnfF2PP+yphOisBYBIiXqXJxYZrV uddF8owe8D1id6p0= X-KPN-MID: 33|7LMminFaezCW/Tf53CQ/BWh2iQ45/t3U2+LTjRORGC7/1WQFgVWN2j/bkxUp2Em eOFZBj8WQ5WbD7WgG0V6r+pW0jWCr8ByM4NrsYq5eO9E= X-KPN-VerifiedSender: Yes X-CMASSUN: 33|oGiDeKagDFocEJEBeOlpvXQkmuzk36gVQxLJ2/tYR2CRA5Rwc2L5SghjhRSxvsn y6EZSqWRnrdyajXKTNERFew== X-Originating-IP: 77.172.38.96 Received: from smtpclient.apple (77-172-38-96.fixed.kpn.net [77.172.38.96]) by smtp.kpnmail.nl (Halon) with ESMTPSA id 934a0833-a02b-11ed-ae07-005056ab1411; Mon, 30 Jan 2023 00:20:53 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.120.0.1.13\)) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2023 00:20:52 +0100 To: "tuhs@tuhs.org" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.120.0.1.13) Message-ID-Hash: YHGQAIVF7BUNUD7XSY25YJMIQIEKXILM X-Message-ID-Hash: YHGQAIVF7BUNUD7XSY25YJMIQIEKXILM X-MailFrom: pnr@planet.nl X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Earliest UNIX Workstations? List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: From: Paul Ruizendaal via TUHS Reply-To: Paul Ruizendaal Herewith some interesting (somewhat) contemporary papers on early = windowing systems: 1. There was a conference in the UK early in 1985 discussing the state = of window systems on Unix. Much interesting discussion and two talks by = James Gosling, one about NeWS (then still called SunDew), and one about = what seems to be SunWindows. It would seem then that these were = developed almost in parallel. http://www.chilton-computing.org.uk/inf/literature/books/wm/contents.htm 2. Then there is a 1986 paper by James Gettys, discussing the 18 month = journey towards X10. In particular it focuses on the constraints that = Unix set on the design of the X system. https://www.tech-insider.org/unix/research/acrobat/860201-b.pdf 3. Next is the 1989 NeWS book that has a nice overview and history of = windowing systems in its chapter 3: http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/sun/NeWS/The_NeWS_Book_1989.pdf Both the UK conference and the NeWS book mention a Unix kernel-based = windowing system done at MIT in 1981 or 1982, =E2=80=9CNU" or = =E2=80=9CNUnix=E2=80=9D, by Jack Test. That one had not been mentioned = before here and may have been the first graphical windowing work on = Unix, preceding the Blit. Who remembers this one? 4. Finally, an undated paper by Stephen Uhler discussing the design of = MGR is here: https://sau.homeip.net/papers/arch.pdf I=E2=80=99ve not included Rob Pike=E2=80=99s papers, as I assume they = are well known on this list. Some of the above papers may be worthy of stable archiving.