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Fail:0 Chk:1357 of 1357 total X-Note: VSCH-CT/SI: 0-1357/SG:1 2/5/2020 6:42:32 AM X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: PRIVATE->PRIVATE-> X-Note-Sending-IP: 10.246.0.39 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: X-Note-Return-Path: brantley@coraid.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: G669 G670 G671 G672 G690 G691 G692 G847 X-Note: Encrypt Rule Hits: X-Note: Mail Class: VALID Subject: Re: [TUHS] pronouncing *nix formulas (was: screen editors) X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Did the NS32032 have a character? If so, what was it? Brantley > On Feb 5, 2020, at 6:40 AM, Rob Pike wrote: >=20 > Pretty sure q came first and was resurrected later. The system, applied r= igorously, was to pick something that worked without conflict each time. Ke= n usually picked. >=20 > -rob >=20 >=20 > On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 8:50 PM Angelo Papenhoff wrote: > On 05/02/20, Rob Pike wrote: > > Also a side note about vi: Plan 9 had another program with that name. > > http://man.cat-v.org/plan_9/1/vi. The 'v' meant mips for obscure but > > consistent reasons. Yet another reason the command was pronounced V.I. > > regardless of its function. >=20 > Actually now i wonder, was there a system behind those characters? > These are all i could find (roughly in order of appearance): > 2 68020 > 8 i386 > v mips > k sparc > z hobbit > 6 i960 > x AT&T 3210 > 1 68000 > 9 AMD 29000 > q ppc > 7 alpha > 5 ARM (7500) > 6 amd64 > 9 ppc64 > 0 mips little endian >=20 > There's a '2' in '68020' and an '8' in '386' and maybe i can understand > 'k' as sparK, but why is v mips or q powerpc? >=20 > aap