From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,MIME_QP_LONG_LINE, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 13407 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2023 16:12:39 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 22 Jul 2023 16:12:39 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9791D42A42; Sun, 23 Jul 2023 02:12:34 +1000 (AEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuhs.org; s=dkim; t=1690042354; h=from:from:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-owner:list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=7qDTGQOTHxGvT4sDSbxGNVEjHkdp563cygPhXRux7Fc=; b=gXb9UD+MDXMucxG8LUoWXYmtv4wJuIf0+eeNrLu7yxSeRTmpG5UXcTrVvsQNGXL6Se1kU6 Oh0PkoqdLA2O4qVI2l2jB/QgFsyr91ClTvPo/fTApSevhQGsVRtw97e0rC+UKcvWjngduB CwEZkBO/B+wOwBse453p77rt89lIn4U= Received: from bagheera.alchemistowl.org (bagheera.alchemistowl.org [IPv6:2001:1620:ad1::21]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2F68D42A33 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2023 02:12:28 +1000 (AEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at bagheera.alchemistowl.org Received: from smtpclient.apple ([178.197.194.224]) (authenticated bits=0) by bagheera.alchemistowl.org (8.17.1.26/8.16.1) with ESMTPSA id 36MGCGdg050219 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 22 Jul 2023 16:12:17 GMT Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-8B068E77-CD34-48EC-9D73-A0930B876F91 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2023 18:12:01 +0200 Message-Id: References: In-Reply-To: To: Warner Losh X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (20F75) Message-ID-Hash: RID25RLB3FIXRA5E3PTVLBZJAAWVLWSU X-Message-ID-Hash: RID25RLB3FIXRA5E3PTVLBZJAAWVLWSU X-MailFrom: arrigo@alchemistowl.org X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Cool talk on Unix and Sendmail history, by Eric Allman List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: From: Arrigo Triulzi via TUHS Reply-To: Arrigo Triulzi X-Spam: Yes --Apple-Mail-8B068E77-CD34-48EC-9D73-A0930B876F91 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 22 Jul 2023, at 17:25, Warner Losh wrote: > having already forgotten the lessons of the early v5 deployments exposing u= nix to lots of bored college students that needed to do something and quickl= y found holes in unix's protections..=20 As a curious young lad I was very pleased that the concept of a =E2=80=9Csec= ure=E2=80=9D tty wasn=E2=80=99t around when I =E2=80=9Cbruteforced=E2=80=9D m= y first root password over my father=E2=80=99s TYY. Arrigo=20 --Apple-Mail-8B068E77-CD34-48EC-9D73-A0930B876F91 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On 2= 2 Jul 2023, at 17:25, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
having already forgotten the lessons of t= he early v5 deployments exposing unix to lots of bored college students that= needed to do something and quickly found holes in unix's protections.. = ;

As a curious young lad I was very p= leased that the concept of a =E2=80=9Csecure=E2=80=9D tty wasn=E2=80=99t aro= und when I =E2=80=9Cbruteforced=E2=80=9D my first root password over my fath= er=E2=80=99s TYY.

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