From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 2777b8e8 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2019 07:58:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 72D809BDDA; Wed, 26 Jun 2019 17:58:47 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE0359BD84; Wed, 26 Jun 2019 17:58:14 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 1E8749BD84; Wed, 26 Jun 2019 17:58:13 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail.bitblocks.com (ns1.bitblocks.com [173.228.5.8]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BBA59BC77 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2019 17:58:12 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mob.bitblocks.com (mob.bitblocks.com [192.168.125.11]) by mail.bitblocks.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 433FE156E40C; Wed, 26 Jun 2019 00:57:50 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) From: Bakul Shah In-Reply-To: <20190626022824.GA86961@server.rulingia.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2019 00:57:49 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <14453.1554920068@cesium.clock.org> <57C2E8D6-148C-487E-A6AE-B6E0E6EC337C@bitblocks.com> <7b575d14-270c-1d3a-7419-0329ffb42669@esse.ch> <20190626022824.GA86961@server.rulingia.com> To: Peter Jeremy X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) Subject: Re: [TUHS] Paper discussing Unix boot process? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Jun 25, 2019, at 7:28 PM, Peter Jeremy wrote: >=20 > [Resurrecting an old thread to provide some input from Dave Horsfall] > On 2019-Apr-11 06:52:08 +0200, Fabio Scotoni wrote: >> On 4/11/19 1:19 AM, Bakul Shah wrote: >>> On Apr 10, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Clem Cole wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> [...] is the Lions book including PS and PDF and in the original = troff thankfully. >>>=20 >>> May be someone will be inspired enough to convert this to troff? Er... I wasn't entirely serious but if I were doing this, I'd start with detexing the source and then manually adding in -ms macros. The detexed source is about 14 lines and surprisingly readable. Almost. This should be a piece of cake for one of you nroff wizards! > ... >> Thus, the first step would be to reverse engineer the troff macros = used >> to typeset the book. >> Then the TeX sources would need to be converted to those troff = macros; >> this can possibly be automated entirely. >> Then the matching version of troff would need to be used to typeset = it >> (likely via apout and V6 or V7 troff). >> Finally, the C/A/T typesetter output would need to be converted to >> PostScript or PDF (either Adobe's psroff or Chris Lewis's psroff from >> comp.unix.sources can likely help with that; I got Lewis's psroff to >> work a while ago, but it's pretty brittle). >=20 > On 2019-Jun-26 11:34:31 +1000, Dave Horsfall = wrote: >> 'Twas NROFF on the CSU's LA120 (I should know; I ran the Unix = section), >> with draft versions on a Duckwriter which I helped proof-read. Don't = know >> whether custom macros were used; quite likely, as he was that sort of >> bloke. After all, he was a Comp Sci lecturer (one of mine!) and if = you >> find yourself writing the same lines over and over again... >>=20 >> Going by that snippet of the thread (too much to follow, as I'm still >> figuring out from which lists I've been bounced) it would be a heroic >> effort to reverse-engineer it, and quite likely not worth the = trouble. >>=20 >> The original source would've been at Elec Eng, but long gone by now. >>=20 >> As for TROFF, well, I'm not aware that UNSW has a C/A/T :-) >>=20 >> Oh, the LA120 had a single-use nylon ribbon, I think, not fabric, = hence >> the somewhat high quality (I no longer have my Lions books to check; = lost >> after several house moves). >=20 > --=20 > Peter Jeremy