[TUHS] dwb picasso

[TUHS] dwb picasso

[Steve Simon]

Anyone remember picasso, a vector graphics GUI app
that generated pic(1) source?

I know nothing of it, anyone got a screenshot even?

is the source available?

was its frontend X11 or blit terminal?

Was it related to the blit cip and xcip tools
or are they a different genus?

Thanks for any info.

-Steve

[TUHS] dwb picasso

[Jaap Akkerhuis]

On May 25, 2011, at 0:19, Steve Simon wrote:

> Anyone remember picasso, a vector graphics GUI app
> that generated pic(1) source?

Yup. Pic & PostScript (and a mix of the two).

> 
> I know nothing of it, anyone got a screenshot even?

Screen shots are in the DWB 3.4 distribution I seem to remember.

> 
> is the source available?

Not that I know.

> was its frontend X11 or blit terminal?

It was/is an X11 (Open Look) as far as I remember.

> 
> Was it related to the blit cip and xcip tools
> or are they a different genus?

I believe cip was the original inspiration. 

	jaap

[TUHS] dwb picasso

[Michael Kerpan]

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 4:56 AM, Jaap Akkerhuis <jaapna at xs4all.nl> wrote:
>

> Screen shots are in the DWB 3.4 distribution I seem to remember.

Is the DWB 3.4 stuff available anywhere? IIRC, DWB 3.3 was released
under the CPL, but 3.4 seems to be orphaned/lost.
>> is the source available?
>
> Not that I know.
Actually the core engine (though not the actual GUI app) seems to be
in the CPL release of DWB at http://www2.research.att.com/sw/download/

The manual for Picasso in the docs/ folder seems to make reference to
the Open Look version, but all I can find in terms of source code is
the batch/CLI version.

Mike

[TUHS] dwb picasso

[Jaap Akkerhuis]

>> Screen shots are in the DWB 3.4 distribution I seem to remember.

> 
> Is the DWB 3.4 stuff available anywhere? IIRC, DWB 3.3 was released
> under the CPL, but 3.4 seems to be orphaned/lost.


I have a hard copy of the DWB 3.4 manuals. The whole distribution was for sale.
Googling for it I found <http://www.faqs.org/faqs/text-faq/section-28.html>.
I don't think that the email or phone still works.

>>> is the source available?
>> 
>> Not that I know.
> Actually the core engine (though not the actual GUI app) seems to be
> in the CPL release of DWB at http://www2.research.att.com/sw/download/
> 
> The manual for Picasso in the docs/ folder seems to make reference to
> the Open Look version, but all I can find in terms of source code is
> the batch/CLI version.

It was in definitely in DWB 3.4. Nils-Peter Nelson and his crew produced it.

	jaap

[TUHS] dwb picasso

[Cyrille Lefevre]

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Le 25/05/2011 00:19, Steve Simon a écrit :

well, too big message held on queue canceled, repost w/ attachment.

> Anyone remember picasso, a vector graphics GUI app
> that generated pic(1) source?

picasso seems to be part of the DocumentWorkBench which is now freely 
available from AT&T Software Technology :

http://www2.research.att.com/~gsf/cgi-bin/download.cgi?action=list&name=dwb

here is the manual page :

         PICASSO(1)           UNIX System V (DWB 3.2)           PICASSO(1)



         NAME
              picasso - a line drawing program

         SYNOPSIS
              picasso [ -bsize -Fpath -Tfonttables -Ipath -ln -Mn -mmargin
              -pmxn -txL ]  [ - ]  [ files ]

         DESCRIPTION
              picasso is a processor for a pic-like drawing language that
              produces PostScript output.  By default, this output is
              scaled to fit an 8 by 10 inch print area, and centered on
              the page.
...

compiles well under cygwin w/ the following patch :

ftp://cyrillelefevre.free.fr/dwb/dwb.1993-02-04.patch.bz2

Regards,

Cyrille Lefevre
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[TUHS] dwb picasso

[Gregg Levine]

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On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Cyrille Lefevre
<cyrille.lefevre-lists at laposte.net> wrote:
>
> Le 25/05/2011 00:19, Steve Simon a écrit :
>
> well, too big message held on queue canceled, repost w/ attachment.
>
>> Anyone remember picasso, a vector graphics GUI app
>> that generated pic(1) source?
>
> picasso seems to be part of the DocumentWorkBench which is now freely
> available from AT&T Software Technology :
>
> http://www2.research.att.com/~gsf/cgi-bin/download.cgi?action=list&name=dwb
>
> here is the manual page :
>
>        PICASSO(1)           UNIX System V (DWB 3.2)           PICASSO(1)
>
>
>
>        NAME
>             picasso - a line drawing program
>
>        SYNOPSIS
>             picasso [ -bsize -Fpath -Tfonttables -Ipath -ln -Mn -mmargin
>             -pmxn -txL ]  [ - ]  [ files ]
>
>        DESCRIPTION
>             picasso is a processor for a pic-like drawing language that
>             produces PostScript output.  By default, this output is
>             scaled to fit an 8 by 10 inch print area, and centered on
>             the page.
> ...
>
> compiles well under cygwin w/ the following patch :
>
> ftp://cyrillelefevre.free.fr/dwb/dwb.1993-02-04.patch.bz2
>
> Regards,
>
> Cyrille Lefevre
> --
> mailto:Cyrille.Lefevre-lists at laposte.net
>
>
>
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Hello!
Well right now the server is still throwing an HTTP-1.1/500 Error message.

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[TUHS] dwb picasso

[Cyrille Lefevre]

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Le 25/05/2011 22:01, Gregg Levine a écrit :
> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Cyrille Lefevre wrote:
>> compiles well under cygwin w/ the following patch :
>>
>> ftp://cyrillelefevre.free.fr/dwb/dwb.1993-02-04.patch.bz2
>
> Hello!
> Well right now the server is still throwing an HTTP-1.1/500 Error message.

my bad, its http and not ftp...

http://cyrillelefevre.free.fr/dwb/dwb.1993-02-04.patch.bz2

Regards,

Cyrille Lefevre
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[TUHS] dwb picasso

[Gregg C Levine]

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Hello!
When I replied to your posting, via my other e-mail address, several days
ago.... I meant not your site. I meant the one from AT&T. I kept checking it
each time the subject came up. Each time it registered a complaint.

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Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon at att.net
“This signature is not the same one. Move along! Move along!”

> -----Original Message-----
> From: tuhs-bounces at minnie.tuhs.org [mailto:tuhs-bounces at minnie.tuhs.org]
On
> Behalf Of Cyrille Lefevre
> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 3:37 AM
> To: Gregg Levine
> Cc: tuhs at minnie.tuhs.org
> Subject: Re: [TUHS] dwb picasso
> 
> 
> Le 25/05/2011 22:01, Gregg Levine a écrit :
> > On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Cyrille Lefevre wrote:
> >> compiles well under cygwin w/ the following patch :
> >>
> >> ftp://cyrillelefevre.free.fr/dwb/dwb.1993-02-04.patch.bz2
> >
> > Hello!
> > Well right now the server is still throwing an HTTP-1.1/500 Error
message.
> 
> my bad, its http and not ftp...
> 
> http://cyrillelefevre.free.fr/dwb/dwb.1993-02-04.patch.bz2
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Cyrille Lefevre
> --
> mailto:Cyrille.Lefevre-lists at laposte.net
> 
> 
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[TUHS] dwb picasso

[Gregg C Levine]

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Hello!
It must have been my believing in things that most people don't want to
believe are a certainty, because the site is now up. I've downloaded them.
Both your patch and the package.

Now what do I do next with the patch? Extract it and apply it to the source
code? And then follow the usual steps for building stuff on Cygwin I should
imagine.(?)

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Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon at att.net
“This signature is not the same one. Move along! Move along!”


> -----Original Message-----
> From: tuhs-bounces at minnie.tuhs.org [mailto:tuhs-bounces at minnie.tuhs.org]
On
> Behalf Of Gregg C Levine
> Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 11:25 PM
> To: tuhs at minnie.tuhs.org; 'Cyrille Lefevre'
> Subject: Re: [TUHS] dwb picasso
> 
> Hello!
> When I replied to your posting, via my other e-mail address, several days
> ago.... I meant not your site. I meant the one from AT&T. I kept checking
it
> each time the subject came up. Each time it registered a complaint.
> 
> ---
> Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon at att.net
> “This signature is not the same one. Move along! Move along!”
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: tuhs-bounces at minnie.tuhs.org [mailto:tuhs-bounces at minnie.tuhs.org]
> On
> > Behalf Of Cyrille Lefevre
> > Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 3:37 AM
> > To: Gregg Levine
> > Cc: tuhs at minnie.tuhs.org
> > Subject: Re: [TUHS] dwb picasso
> >
> >
> > Le 25/05/2011 22:01, Gregg Levine a écrit :
> > > On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Cyrille Lefevre wrote:
> > >> compiles well under cygwin w/ the following patch :
> > >>
> > >> ftp://cyrillelefevre.free.fr/dwb/dwb.1993-02-04.patch.bz2
> > >
> > > Hello!
> > > Well right now the server is still throwing an HTTP-1.1/500 Error
> message.
> >
> > my bad, its http and not ftp...
> >
> > http://cyrillelefevre.free.fr/dwb/dwb.1993-02-04.patch.bz2
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Cyrille Lefevre
> > --
> > mailto:Cyrille.Lefevre-lists at laposte.net
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > TUHS mailing list
> > TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org
> > https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs
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[TUHS] dwb picasso

[Cyrille Lefevre]

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Le 29/05/2011 05:37, Gregg C Levine a écrit :
>
> Hello!
> It must have been my believing in things that most people don't want to
> believe are a certainty, because the site is now up. I've downloaded them.
> Both your patch and the package.

right

> Now what do I do next with the patch? Extract it and apply it to the source
> code? And then follow the usual steps for building stuff on Cygwin I should
> imagine.(?)

well, things changes since last year...

wget http://cyrillelefevre.free.fr/dwb/dwb.1993-02-04.2011-05-29.patch.bz2

mkdir dwb.1993-02-04
cd dwb.1993-02-04
tar xf ../dwb.1993-02-04.tgz
bzcat ../dwb.1993-02-04.patch.bz2 | patch -p1
make -j 1 -f dwb.mk all install

should make it ?

results in /opt/dwb

PS : under cygwin, patch come from patchutils

Regards,

Cyrille Lefevre
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[TUHS] dwb picasso

[Michael Kerpan]

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On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Cyrille Lefevre
<cyrille.lefevre-lists at laposte.net> wrote:
>
> Le 25/05/2011 00:19, Steve Simon a écrit :
>
> well, too big message held on queue canceled, repost w/ attachment.
>
>> Anyone remember picasso, a vector graphics GUI app
>> that generated pic(1) source?
>
> picasso seems to be part of the DocumentWorkBench which is now freely
> available from AT&T Software Technology :
>
> http://www2.research.att.com/~gsf/cgi-bin/download.cgi?action=list&name=dwb
>
> here is the manual page :
>
>        PICASSO(1)           UNIX System V (DWB 3.2)           PICASSO(1)
>
>
>
>        NAME
>             picasso - a line drawing program
>
>        SYNOPSIS
>             picasso [ -bsize -Fpath -Tfonttables -Ipath -ln -Mn -mmargin
>             -pmxn -txL ]  [ - ]  [ files ]
>
>        DESCRIPTION
>             picasso is a processor for a pic-like drawing language that
>             produces PostScript output.  By default, this output is
>             scaled to fit an 8 by 10 inch print area, and centered on
>             the page.
> ...
>
> compiles well under cygwin w/ the following patch :
>
> ftp://cyrillelefevre.free.fr/dwb/dwb.1993-02-04.patch.bz2

This looks like the batch version of Picasso rather than the
interactive version. Clearly the basic engine is there, but it looks
like the fun part (the GUI) is MIA.

Mike